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Evidence gathering takes years. Mueller has plenty - and has no obligation to divulge to the public - UNTIL HE BRINGS AN INDICTMENT - what that evidence is.
So, the fact that there is "nothing out there" bodes VERY POORLY for Trump. It is always what you don't know that trips people up over time.
The delusional can continue to say "oh, but there's nothing out there" - which shows how LITTLE they really KNOW about the process. Clearly the 'little grey cells' are not their strong suit - sorta clones of their leader in that way.
Evidence gathering does not take years. And the special counsel has to report to the AG, and serves only at the pleasure of the AG (who in turn serves only at the pleasure of the POTUS).
There really is nothing out there. Except Democrats breaking the laws constantly and then covering it up (or trying to, LOL).
We also know that all of these requests were signed off on by the Obama Administration’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch and that the first request to spy on Trump was denied by the FISA Court.
This has to be signed off by Obama, the AG and the FBI.
All are guilty and should be arrested.
My prediction is we will also find out that Obama ordered the spying to continue even after Trump became President which is a treasonous act by Obama.
FISA court is a foreign intel court, not to be used for US citizens, therefore they broke yet another law.
How is that constitutional lawyer thingy working now???
But they shook hands in the Oval office and stuff.
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Where are the civil liberty people?
Innocent until proven guilty?
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YIKES!
The very very tip of the iceberg.
A lot more to come.
Trump is going to be the most transparent President since George Washington.
All the secrets and corruption is going to be exposed and fixed. from way back to present.
He's a tough New Yorker, ain't he?
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This set of posts is really neat...a whole set of the idiot right all in line. All absolute bovine excrement...but they all do believe it.
Going to be so sad for these poor folk when the balloon gets pricked.
So you don't buy it either. Gateway Pundit doesn't sound too credible. Thankfully, I'm not familiar with it.
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Funny how Gateway Pundit does not offer one bit of proof for this and you all just eat it up
James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence under Obama, appeared on NBC’s “Meet the Press” and denied that a FISA court warrant was issued to monitor Trump Tower. “For the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the president-elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign,” Clapper said.
Clapper said he would have known whether the FBI had a court order for surveillance, and he was not aware of one.
We also know that all of these requests were signed off on by the Obama Administration’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch and that the first request to spy on Trump was denied by the FISA Court.
Funny how Gateway Pundit does not offer one bit of proof for this and you all just eat it up
James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence under Obama, appeared on NBC’s “Meet the Press” and denied that a FISA court warrant was issued to monitor Trump Tower. “For the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the president-elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign,” Clapper said.
Clapper said he would have known whether the FBI had a court order for surveillance, and he was not aware of one.
Perhaps will we see if he was telling the truth or not. Funny how you folks seem to take whatever the DOJ
( past and present) says as gospel. Funny how you anti Trumpers just eat it up.
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I'm dedicating only one post to it, and I might try to delete this one when it's all said and done.
Is the OP gonna come back in here to defend their ass or not?
If this is fake news, I'm boycotting the OP.
Why do y'all waste your time on the fake stuff? Trump won, remember?
Definitely fake news but man they fall so easily. Gateway Pundit.
This "news" would lead you to believe that the FISA warrant actually requested for Carter Page was for Trump and requested by Obama. We know today that it was for Carter Page and requested by the DOJ based on 50 pages of classified intelligence they had on him. The first request for FISA was apparently very broad (we don't know why it was broad) and the FISC team asked them to revise the request to narrow the request. We can only guess and say did the request want to monitor more than Carter Page? There are probably more suspicious actors listed in that 50 page classified document than Carter Page, but maybe only Carter Page had enough compelling info against him. I don't think the public will ever see that. Anyway, they had to "revise" their FISA warrant request. In the FISC terms that's not a rejection. We can say it is, but officially, it's not.
But this is certainly entertaining to watch these stooges here get led around by their right wing bloggers.
As to the "same guy" comment--it certainly has crossed my mine. There are three people on here with a pattern of two of the letter "B" in their user name that post strikingly similar conspiracy theories. This OP has a double "P" but posting style seems a bit different.
Definitely fake news but man they fall so easily. Gateway Pundit.
This "news" would lead you to believe that the FISA warrant actually requested for Carter Page was for Trump and requested by Obama. We know today that it was for Carter Page and requested by the DOJ based on 50 pages of classified intelligence they had on him. The first request for FISA was apparently very broad (we don't know why it was broad) and the FISC team asked them to revise the request to narrow the request. We can only guess and say did the request want to monitor more than Carter Page? There are probably more suspicious actors listed in that 50 page classified document than Carter Page, but maybe only Carter Page had enough compelling info against him. I don't think the public will ever see that. Anyway, they had to "revise" their FISA warrant request. In the FISC terms that's not a rejection. We can say it is, but officially, it's not.
But this is certainly entertaining to watch these stooges here get led around by their right wing bloggers.
As to the "same guy" comment--it certainly has crossed my mine. There are three people on here with a pattern of two of the letter "B" in their user name that post strikingly similar conspiracy theories. This OP has a double "P" but posting style seems a bit different.
I am not sure if you are including me in that group of 3 - which I assume you meant Bentlebee, Bentbow, and Beergeek40?
If you are, don't even bother going down that road.
Former CIA counterterrorism official Phil Mudd: The FBI people "are ticked" and they'll be saying of Trump, “You’ve been around for 13 months. We've been around since 1908. I know how this game is going to be played. We're going to win"
Win what? Win politically against a sitting President? Isn't this what the entire memo is about?! The FBI shouldn't be in the winning of politics.
Former CIA counterterrorism official Phil Mudd: The FBI people "are ticked" and they'll be saying of Trump, “You’ve been around for 13 months. We've been around since 1908. I know how this game is going to be played. We're going to win"
Win what? Win politically against a sitting President? Isn't this what the entire memo is about?! The FBI shouldn't be in the winning of politics.
Uh, how about prevail against his obvious smear campaign against them.
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