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Old 02-05-2018, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I watched, too. The Wall went up the year I was born, and came down the year my oldest child was born.

I went through Checkpoint Charlie in the 1970s, visited East Berlin for a few days, and actually have a decades-long friend who escaped from the East in the early 1970s. It was very moving to watch that Wall come down.

Anyone wishing to compare it to the wall to be built on the US Southern border - don't. VERY different thing. East Berlin/Germany wouldn't let their citizens immigrate to the West. The purpose of the Wall was to keep people trapped in the East.
There's no such thing as a one-way wall. If it really can keep them out (it can't, because it doesn't block airplanes), it can keep us in.

I remember how incredibly moving it was to watch that wall come down. No free country should have a wall around it. I've believed that since I learned what the Berlin Wall was, and I'll believe that until I die.

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Old 02-05-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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Actually, you can. People who owe Federal taxes travel abroad all the time. And not only that, Americans who owe Federal taxes sometimes even live abroad. I have NO idea where you're getting your ridiculous notion.
Ridiculous huh?
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If you have seriously delinquent tax debt, IRC § 7345 authorizes the IRS to certify that debt to the State Department for action. The State Department generally will not issue a passport to you after receiving certification from the IRS.

Certification Of Individuals With Seriously Delinquent Tax Debt
Annual Adjustment For Inflation
Taxpayer Notification - Notice CP 508C
Reversal Of Certification - Notice CP 508R
Judicial Review Of Certification
Payment Of Taxes
Passport Status
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Upon receiving certification, the State Department shall deny your passport application and/or may revoke your current passport. If your passport application is denied or your passport revoked and you are overseas, the State Department may issue you a limited validity passport good only for direct return to the United States.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:02 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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There's no such thing as a one-way wall.
Actually, there was - The Berlin Wall. I could enter East Berlin as a foreigner through Checkpoint Charlie. I have the stamp on one of my expired passports to prove it. East Berliners/Germans were not allowed to pass through Checkpoint Charlie to go to the West, for fear they would never return.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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"generally will not" and "may not" is NOT "will not." Additionally, Americans who owe Fed US taxes already live abroad.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:13 AM
 
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Walls are built by those who are terrified because of their own ignorance.
Or maybe they are built by people who are sick of paying $113 Billion a year to people who aren't even Americans.

America FIRST.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Walls are built by those who are terrified because of their own ignorance.
Platitudes; the weapon of those who know little.

Walls are built for all kinds of reasons. And opposed for all kinds of reasons.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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Actually, there was - The Berlin Wall. I could enter East Berlin as a foreigner through Checkpoint Charlie. I have the stamp on one of my expired passports to prove it. East Berliners/Germans were not allowed to pass through Checkpoint Charlie to go to the West, for fear they would never return.

I made the crossing about 12 times during my visit.

Very exciting and very easy for those of us not citizens of that joke of a country known as East Germany.

Comparisons to anything else are idiotic, but the late East German dictator Erich Honnecker was fond of comparing it to the US-Mexico border, so these fools are in good company.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Seriously delinquent = mostly the guys who WONT pay.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: San Francisco born/raised - Las Vegas
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Walls are built by those who are terrified because of their own ignorance.
Be cautious . . . Someone may drive off in your car or enter your home without your permission.

Take good care to lock your doors.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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There's no such thing as a one-way wall. If it really can keep them out (it can't, because it doesn't block airplanes), it can keep us in.

I remember how incredibly moving it was to watch that wall come down. No free country should have a wall around it. I've believed that since I learned what the Berlin Wall was, and I'll believe that until I die.

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Nonsense! We still have thousands jumping our border every year. So what that it wouldn't block airplanes? No one is coming here illegally by airplane anyway. The U.S. isn't the type of country that would try and keep us in. The wall is to keep intruders out. Your beliefs are ridiculous.
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