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Old 02-20-2018, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Supposedly, Nikolas Cruz and James Holmes had been diagnosed as being autistic.

Interesting, how many of these students were acting like the guy was a monster for years though. I am sure the fact that they likely socially treated him a weird guy likely made his cynicism worse though.

The liberals can blame guns all they want, but the root cause of all this in circa 2000 America is the social popularity contest based on economy that seems to estrange more than it used to.

There were likely the same amount of autistic people a generation or two ago but the fact that most people worked in assembly lines, farms and other blue-collar fields where social skills might not have been important likely made things easily back then.

I know in the case of James Holmes, he was a very intelligent, high-functioning man who likely was cynical over his best intellectual efforts being unrewarded and living in a rough area of North Aurora likely made him very cynical of society.

Several others such as Adam Lanza shared similar characteristics also as being autistic.

Seems as though that the real issue is that there are lots of socially alienated autistic people, especially those who have very high functioning autism who are really isolated in today's socially based economy.

In today's heavily socially based economy, in general I think anyone who communicates differently is seen as autistic.

Seems as more with socially interaction being so extremely important, that more and more people get a label just for socially being out of the mainstream.

I am sure that generations ago when you had people who would be considered autistic by today's standards many of them likely did blue-collar work and were just known to the families as being different.
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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So ban Autistic persons?
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:35 PM
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Supposedly, Nikolas Cruz and James Holmes had been diagnosed as being autistic.

Interesting, how many of these students were acting like the guy was a monster for years though. I am sure the fact that they likely socially treated him a weird guy likely made his cynicism worse though.

The liberals can blame guns all they want, but the root cause of all this in circa 2000 America is the social popularity contest based on economy that seems to estrange more than it used to.

There were likely the same amount of autistic people a generation or two ago but the fact that most people worked in assembly lines, farms and other blue-collar fields where social skills might not have been important likely made things easily back then.

I know in the case of James Holmes, he was a very intelligent, high-functioning man who likely was cynical over his best intellectual efforts being unrewarded and living in a rough area of North Aurora likely made him very cynical of society.

Several others such as Adam Lanza shared similar characteristics also as being autistic.

Seems as though that the real issue is that there are lots of socially alienated autistic people, especially those who have very high functioning autism who are really isolated in today's socially based economy.

In today's heavily socially based economy, in general I think anyone who communicates differently is seen as autistic.

Seems as more with socially interaction being so extremely important, that more and more people get a label just for socially being out of the mainstream.

I am sure that generations ago when you had people who would be considered autistic by today's standards many of them likely did blue-collar work and were just known to the families as being different.
Weren't they placed in mental institutions?
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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So ban Autistic persons?
Nope, not at all.

Maybe people should have been asking these people how they felt over the years though?

As I alluded to the fact that people were gossiping and talking among themselves of his behavior but everyone just seemed to ignore it likely didn't make the mental and social situation even better.
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So ban Autistic persons?
Or tax the hell out of them.

- The Left
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:53 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Holmes was never diagnosed as autistic. If you know otherwise, please provide a source. He was diagnosed as autistic in the court of public opinion though. His previous therapists had said he suffers from schizophrenia.
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