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Old 02-21-2018, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Democracy is great, until people don’t vote the way you want them to.
Which is why the Establishment has engaged in a witch hunt to attempt to depose the President.
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Which is why the Establishment has engaged in a witch hunt to attempt to depose the President.


Yeah, but the donor class spent all that money to get their girl Hillary elected.

Of course they're going to be upset.
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:52 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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states rights do no usurp the constitution

The Constitution recognizes the state's authority to create and modify congressional districts as they see fit.


Article I

Section 4

The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations, except as to the places of choosing Senators.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:19 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The new map is NOT gerrymander free. It has now been gerrymandered for the benefit of the Democrats by a overtly partisan and activist 5-2 Democrat appointed court.

This just goes to show what we already knew - that Democrats are only bothered by gerrymandering when they are not the ones doing it.
I got a good chuckle out of this. The new map...



...is much more sensible than the old. 6, 7, 11, 12, and 17 in particular were real head scratchers.



I love the old salamander shaped districts though. If you are going to gerrymander, at least don't make it so damn obvious.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:21 AM
 
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I got a good chuckle out of this. The new map...

...is much more sensible than the old.

I love the old salamander shaped districts though.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

The new map actually looks like a congressional map. The old one looks like my 3 yr old niece splashing paint onto a canvas.

Btw, the locals jokingly refer to the 7th District as "Goofy kicking Donald Duck".

Take a look at the shape of the 7th district and I dare anyone to tell me it makes sense.

Pennsylvania's 7th congressional district

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Old 02-21-2018, 02:26 AM
 
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13, 16, 17, and 18 were strange as well.
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Old 02-21-2018, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The word "stanford" does not appear in the article you linked to, so what are you talking about?





From the OP's article


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The redistricting map was drawn with the help of Stanford University law professor Nathaniel Persily, who has helped with the development of other maps used to determine House of Representatives districts elsewhere in the country, according to Politico. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court took it upon itself to impose new districts on the state after Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, was unable to agree upon a new map with the state's Republican leaders, who control the legislature.
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Old 02-21-2018, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The map of Pennsylvania's 18 congressional districts is to be in effect for the May 15 primary and substantially overhauls a congressional map widely viewed as among the nation's most gerrymandered. The map was approved in a 4-3 decision, with four Democratic justices backing it and one Democratic justice siding with two Republicans against it.

LA Times
Democrats could get a boost in Pennsylvania after court issues new congressional district map
If the republicans wanted to make a change for the better they could have put a truly independent panel to come up with changes rather than attempting to retain the status quo. The two parties couldn't come up with a reasonable solution so the courts approved a map that was drawn up by an independent expert.
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Old 02-21-2018, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Does it really make that much of a difference? Dems have been elected to Congress, state offices and the WH with the previous map.
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Old 02-21-2018, 06:40 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Nobody violated the Constitution. Can you tell me what article/section they have violated?

Both Parties have used "gerrymandering" (as it is called) for many decades. As the court has now drawn the lines, they now heavily favor Democrats, even in districts that are predominantly Republican, and Republicans they are now drawn so that Republicans are now not living within districts that they represent!

This has been done by design, so that the Democrats can win Pennsylvania. More corruption on the part of Democrats. It's the only way they are able to win.
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