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Old 03-10-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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"Bolton is currently a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI)"

well that's all i need to know about him. that place is the worst.


edit: but i did watch the video, and i don't think tucker carlson "destroyed" him. I thought it went the other way, Bolton presented his argument pretty well and Tucker Carlson just fumbles about the whole time, constantly changing the subject.


As for what they're debating, it's too complex for me to have strong opinions about. It basically requires you to have a strong opinion about what would've happened in the middle east, had the 2nd iraq war not occured.
Really? Because it looked to me as if Carlson pretty much took him down.

Bolton presented his argument VERY WELL...it’s just that his arguments were stupid as all hell

 
Old 03-10-2018, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Seriously?

No, Hillary Clinton would not have hired John Bolton and it's just absurd to claim that and zero to back up this stupid claim.

Trump, on the other hand, met with Bolton this week and he's rumored to be under consideration for national security advisor.
I was not suggesting that a hypothetical President Hillary Clinton would have appointed Bolton to her administration. What I am suggesting is that Hillary or Jeb would have stacked their administration with the same foreign policy establishment types, which includes the neocons, who have been so incompetent these last 20 years. If Trump were to appoint Bolton, it would be a huge mistake.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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Still not as good as the time Jon Stewart trashed Tucker on CNN......
 
Old 03-10-2018, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I don't see how being "pro-Israel" benefits me or my pocketbook. $3.8 billion a year (stolen from Americans via income taxes) in welfare benefits to a country with free college tuition and free healthcare sounds like a scam to me.
Positive relations and strong alliances abroad for the United States isn't all that concerned with you personally or your pocketbook although the argument could be made that, in fact, the broader American economy does benefit from the U.S./Israeli association.

The provision in the $3.8 Billion given to Israel annually stipulates that they must purchase American military systems with that money.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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Seriously?

No, Hillary Clinton would not have hired John Bolton and it's just absurd to claim that and zero to back up this stupid claim.

Trump, on the other hand, met with Bolton this week and he's rumored to be under consideration for national security advisor.

Nah, Hillary already met with Henry Kissinger many times and wanted his endorsement and Kissinger and the Clintons go way back and Kissinger has been on record in praising Hillary Clinton's foreign policy and her work as Secretary of State.


Kissinger makes Bolton look like a choir boy.

https://www.thenation.com/article/hi...s-inexcusable/

https://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...-to-haunt-her/


Hillary Clinton is by far a more war hawkish than Trump. She is a war criminal or very borderline to it.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 04:17 PM
 
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Really? Because it looked to me as if Carlson pretty much took him down.

Bolton presented his argument VERY WELL...it’s just that his arguments were stupid as all hell
LOL thats a pretty accurate assessment, i guess.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Seriously?

No, Hillary Clinton would not have hired John Bolton and it's just absurd to claim that and zero to back up this stupid claim.

Trump, on the other hand, met with Bolton this week and he's rumored to be under consideration for national security advisor.
yes hitlery would have hired Bolton...

he is a liberal, he and Brzezinski, and Kissinger all the same...globalist liberals
 
Old 03-10-2018, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Positive relations and strong alliances abroad for the United States isn't all that concerned with you personally or your pocketbook although the argument could be made that, in fact, the broader American economy does benefit from the U.S./Israeli association.

The provision in the $3.8 Billion given to Israel annually stipulates that they must purchase American military systems with that money.
Taxation is theft.

I never consented, nor signed a written document, stating that my rightfully earned income would be taken from me by force and given to a foreign government.

Foreign aid is pure socialism--taking from one and redistributing it to another.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Nah, Hillary already met with Henry Kissinger many times and wanted his endorsement and Kissinger and the Clintons go way back and Kissinger has been on record in praising Hillary Clinton's foreign policy and her work as Secretary of State.


Kissinger makes Bolton look like a choir boy.

https://www.thenation.com/article/hi...s-inexcusable/

https://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...-to-haunt-her/


Hillary Clinton is by far a more war hawkish than Trump. She is a war criminal or very borderline to it.
+1 million.

Kissinger should have been locked away in solitary 30 years ago. And Hillary has the foreign policy of Dick Cheney.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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yes hitlery would have hired Bolton...

he is a liberal, he and Brzezinski, and Kissinger all the same...globalist liberals
Trotskyite neocons...all of them.

Trotskyism to Anachronism: The Neoconservative Revolution

p.s. You notice how all the neocon Iraq War cheerleaders are now slithering back to the Democratic Party from which they came? Bill Kristol, Max Boot, Jennifer Rubin, Robert Kagan, etc.?

Caitlin Johnstone is a leftist. But she is a principled leftist. And she knows what's up:

Iraq-Raping Neocons Are Suddenly Posing As Woke Progressives To Gain Support
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