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How can you state that school funding is fine when they go to a 4 day week and drop education requirements for teachers. Districts in large cities in Kansas can't find enough talent and you think that's fine.
Maybe the people of Kansas's majority party are fine with the outcome of reduced education? Trump certainly was - he proudly admitted to that - and Kansas is blood-red.
My kid went to public schools in KS and got recruited by Harvard, Yale etc. Decided to take an academic full-ride elsewhere that was better suited for their major. My friends kid is at Brown (same deal...another failed public school kid and bad parents I guess.)
Sorry the public schools around you suck, but they sure don't everywhere.
Another of my kids friends got a full-ride to MIT, so we greatly appreciate your generalizations.
Why turn down Harvard or Yale? They are "academic full-ride" if you are accepted and don't have the money to go.
Why turn down Harvard or Yale? They are "academic full-ride" if you are accepted and don't have the money to go.
Middle and upper middle class kids (parents with high five and low six figure incomes) end up with a bill which is significant relative to their parents assets if covered by them and their own future earnings if they aren't set on medicine/law/programming/finance. Some lower ranked schools (generally ones that are somewhat competitive and want to be more so but far less than the ivies themselves) offer academic full rides or deep scholarships specifically to nab academically elite students of this background from the ivies.
The money that Harvard and Yale provide is not "academic" full ride, it's "need" based. It is a no brainer for those from poor and working class backgrounds but the lower end of the upper-middle class - which also produces a disproportionate amount of the strongest students - gets kind of screwed and going to an ivy does not make sense except as a consumption good or if you want to go into consulting or banking.
It's also inefficient. You can* get an education that depending on locality ranges from nearly as good to outright better by buying a home or renting in one of the best local public districts. The additional housing cost isn't cheap but will run a lot less than tuition (unless something happens to the district that wipes out the housing premium before you sell).
*Everywhere I've lived, I'm sure there are some parts of America where every district in driving distance is bad, but that's a sufficiently severe problem to justify moving out of the region entirely if you have school-age kids.
I live 20 miles from the Kansas line. We get a lot of teachers from Kansas coming here to apply. But Kansas is not as bad as Oklahoma. We get a bunch of their teachers applying here too. They pay even less. Most of the teachers at our community college come from Kansas to teach here.
It's really throughout the state but the fact that even cities like Wichita are having difficulty makes the case, rural areas have more of a problem.
Many states will pay for a teaching degree for people with the appropriate background but filling vacancies without the education is problematic.
You indicated this was debunked, it is not and that is why this ended up in the courts. Kansas raised taxes in 2016 to cover shortfalls but they are still behind the curve when it comes to funding schools because they sat on their tax cut for too many years.
Brownback decreased all income taxes and eliminated the income tax for LLCs. It wasn’t until the budget crisis of 2017 that the Republicans revolted and undid those tax changes.
The Kansas constitution has strict requirements for public school funding, I’m not sure if many other states have such a thing. Our per pupil spending level is currently just below the national average, but it’s still above most states and significantly higher then Oklahoma.
Luckily with our state budget changes we were projected to have a $300+ million surplus, not that it covers the education shortfall, but it’s a good thing we redid the budget shortfall first. Just imagine if we still had the Brownback tax cuts implemented and these new education budget requirements. Yikes!
Maybe the people of Kansas's majority party are fine with the outcome of reduced education? Trump certainly was - he proudly admitted to that - and Kansas is blood-red.
You reap what you sow.
Or maybe not since the state just rebelled against the governor last year to undo his tax cuts.
Trump won by the thinnest margin in Kansas since Reagan. Kansas has a long streak of being moderate Republican. Our state history is so closely tied to the Republican Party, it’s hard to get away from that.
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