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Old 03-20-2018, 04:05 PM
 
Location: 89434
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I believe welfare should help people until they are able to support themselves. Not to keep people dependent on the government, and enable people to abuse it.
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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What's funny is a lot of people wanting welfare checks and other government benefits contribute little to nothing to society. And they want someone else to pay for their benefits.
You know whats even funnier people dying of starvation!
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: 89434
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You know whats even funnier people dying of starvation!
Someone has to pay for welfare programs.
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Someone has to pay for welfare programs.
My heart bleeds for them
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:33 PM
 
Location: 89434
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You know whats even funnier people dying of starvation!
Is that what charity is for, to take care of people?

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My heart bleeds for them
Bleeds for who, the people demanding welfare or those that pay for it?
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Is that what charity is for, to take care of people?


No welfare in the early 20th century. Looks like charity isn't enough.


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Old 03-20-2018, 05:58 PM
 
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So I suppose you think you're right sbout everything you've stated here....

Otherwise, you wouldn't have stated it!

Well you're right about some things, and wrong about others........
I could care less what you think of me. Just take care of your things and what you can control and don't expect me to take care of your responsibilities.

Just handle your stuff and forget about saving the world and making things "right" for everybody at the expense of others.
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Old 03-20-2018, 06:05 PM
 
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No welfare in the early 20th century. Looks like charity isn't enough.



that's just a picture......I don't know the personal circumstances of their parents and their whole family.


the world existed for centuries before the big welfare state. The U.S. fought a Revolution war and founded a Republic for over 150 years without the big welfare state. To say we have to have a big welfare state to survive and run a country is not true.
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The free market unchecked leads to consolidation of corporations who squash competition.
Based on what exactly? I'd love to see an example of this.

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This is bad for social mobility. As we saw in the early 1900s when the US was more capitalistic than it is now workers where exploited significantly some were not even paid in dollars but company script.
We saw the free market overcome this as more businesses popped up that paid a better wage. Once there was competition wages and quality of goods and services went up.

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The level of power is not equal hence why some regulations are needed to keep corporations in check.
That's called crony capitalism and hurts the small business. i thought you were against that?

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The same goes for providing the poor with modest programs to help them take that away and you have crime ridden favelas.
Show proof of this.

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A pure free market is chaos just look at Somalia or Brazil or any number of countries that have limited social safety nets terrible places to live if you aren't wealthy.
Somalia and Brazil are not free markets. Not even close. For you to use them as examples is absurd. Especially Somolia where they don't have rights and freedoms which is paramount to a free market.


You made a few things up and when you did use examples you didn't back up what you claimed. Maybe it's the terminology you have used, dunno. Except to say the examples you presented hold no water.
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Look up the reason the black unwed pregnancy rate was around 24 percent in the late 60s and is around 73 percent now. We incentivised women to have more kids out of wedlock by paying more welfare to single moms.
It went up a lot for all races/groups.
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