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Old 03-30-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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To answer your question - no the right-wingers didn't care about Chelsea's feelings. They instead said terrible things about her as they have continued to do in this very forum.
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Exactly. And Fox News was ALL MONICA! All the time.
Lewinsky has made several rounds over the years.

Republicans even hauled in Juanita and several others to sit front and center at the presidential debates in order to shake Clinton. Though why Clinton should be humiliated over her husband's behavior is somewhat of a mystery.

Paula Jones has even given interviews about how the Right used her.

To claim that these women weren't given their time in the spotlight is ridiculous. Decades later, they are still being trotted out for our amusement and edification.

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Old 03-30-2018, 10:34 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Only after Trump run for the Presidency is when the left came up with the women to bash and trash Trump.

Many famous people get sued by wannabes and for true reasons.

Cases often get settled.

Trump was/is wealthy, always surrounded by beautiful women and never were the accusers coming forward during his 68-69 years on this planet until he run and especially when he became a serious contender.

The left is showing again their true colors and that’s why most people don’t care about this.

We judge President Trump on his policies!

MAGA!

I’m truly sorry what he and his family have to go through and I’m embarrassed for what the media is doing.
Because they weren't paid and given a script.
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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Only after Trump run for the Presidency is when the left came up with the women to bash and trash Trump.

Many famous people get sued by wannabes and for true reasons.

Cases often get settled.

Trump was/is wealthy, always surrounded by beautiful women and never were the accusers coming forward during his 68-69 years on this planet until he run and especially when he became a serious contender.

The left is showing again their true colors and that’s why most people don’t care about this.

We judge President Trump on his policies!

MAGA!

I’m truly sorry what he and his family have to go through and I’m embarrassed for what the media is doing.
bentlebee that is my thought, which leads me to believe they want their 15 min of fame.
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:56 AM
 
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Melania married a serial adulterer who paraded previous mistresses around in public for all to see.

Perhaps she, like his voters, should have done a little more due diligence before committing.
Given his past behavior there is absolutely no reason to believe that his exploits wouldn't have hit the media even had he not been elected president.

Yes, it's unfortunate that her husband is a pig, but that's who she married.
So...
This assumes she didn't make a bargain with the Devil...whereas I think she did.

GOLD is worth a lot to many people. More than life itself to some..and definitely more than independence and happiness to many.

She was one of 100's that Trump bought or brought over from poor (some ex-Soviet, etc.) countries to populate the lousy dorms he put in basements in NYC for his "modeling agency". You can find plenty of stories and first person accounts of it - although I'm sure many signed NDA's.
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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To claim that these women weren't given their time in the spotlight is ridiculous. Decades later, they are still being trotted out for our amusement and edification.
If Trump is lucky enough to live for a while we will parade out "this is your life" right until the very end...as it should be. Remember, this is King Birther and King Whoremonger and King Bankruptcy.....who is often proud of the way he uses people. He should love it that we "never forget".
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Cases often get settled.
So you do know the answer.

Women had come forward; the cultural climate has shifted. There had been rumors about Harvey Weinstein floating around for a while, particularly within the film industry itself. Women came forward and cases were settled. The culture has shifted to take that sort of behavior more seriously and Trump is no different. Dismissing it as as conspiracy by the left is intellectually lazy.


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We judge President Trump on his policies!
If I felt it would be worth my time, I'd run through your post history just to find one superficial criticism of Obama. Anything suggesting he hates America or contemplating him being a secret Muslim. Anything at all. Because I do not believe this is a standard you actually hold.
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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There are 2 point with which I disagree.

Kennedy? Yes. Definitely consensual as far as we know. But lets be honest here, with Clinton it is questionable, just as it is with Trump. They have both had their accusers and I see no valid reason to believe, or disbelieve the accusers of one and not the other.
After Clinton's affairs came to light I considered him to be a slime-ball. But he was a slime-ball with federal surpluses, a good stock market, a good economy, and with low income Americans being taken care of. Trump on the other hand is a slime-ball with huge deficits, followers who give him credit for a stock market and economy he inherited, and who is taking away federal resources from needy Americans by supply side economics and extra military spending.

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And 2, he didn't publicly brag about grabbing women’s private parts. He privately bragged about it. His intent was not for it to be public.
I see your point.

Chad.
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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Was Bill Clinton's rape accuser ever interviewed by 60 minutes? What about his multitude of sexual assault victims? If not, why then is Trump's consensual relationships being discussed on 60 minutes and elsewhere by the mainstream?
Actually, Gennifer Flowers, Bill Clinton's accuser, was interviewed on 60 minutes (and by multiple other news shows) during the campaign in 1992. It was a HUGE subject for national discussion back then too.

And, we all know what Bill went on to do with Monica Lewinsky. once he got into the White House. Barbara Walters did a hugely watched interview in prime time with Lewinsky in 1999. 48 million people tuned in to watch that interview in 1999. (see: https://nypost.com/2018/03/26/stormy...nutes-ratings/)

Only 24 million watched Stormy Daniels on Sunday night, so the President actually got off easy compared to Clinton.
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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I can't believe that anyone seriously thinks Bill Clinton never privately bragged about grabbing women's private parts and many other sexual exploits.
Why? Is this normal in your circles, men bragging about assaulting women? No men I know do either the attacking or the bragging about it, but maybe that speaks to the kind of people you associate with if you view this as normal.

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Heck, I'm willing to bet just about every President has done so at some point or another.
And I'm willing to bet the vast majority of past presidents weren't serial sexual assaulters like our current one is. Again, what you seem to think is normal behavior is disturbing.
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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You answered your own question here and no one is more famous then a president.
Michael Jackson, Beyoncé.

Must be some institutional racism, wait, that doesn’t make sense.
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