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Old 04-03-2018, 06:57 AM
 
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saw this pop up as a headline, but which side is right? to me, i dont see how they are different than international students, if they pay out of state, then daca status students should as well

they are not citizens/immigrants so they are foreign students studying in the US, DACA is a substitute for a student visa so they can stay for the time being (hell if they were truely worried about DACA, they should be on a student visa to begin with, and their legal status wouldnt be in question)... no extra "privileges" though that other foreign students do not get.
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Why should illegal "in state" college students take seats (and monies to attend said college in whatever form) away from legal in-state students?

They should not be considered "in-state" when they shouldn't even be in this country to begin with.
citizenship status does not necessarily dictate residency status for tuition purposes
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:03 AM
 
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tuition classes tend to be set by residency status, not citizenship
No. Since the early 2000s or so, internationally popular public state schools (those that are more highly ranked) have been charging International Student tuition surcharges and extra International Student fees. Definitely based on citizenship status.
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:06 AM
 
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In most states, a new non-resident student only pays out of state rates their first year. By living and going to school they establish themselves as residents and pay in-state rates for their last 3 years. Most have no intention of remaining in their college state.

Since the above is based on actual residency and not legal domicile, DACA and others who have lived in that state for a year should pay in-state rates.
Keep on being wrong.
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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No. Since the early 2000s or so, internationally popular public state schools (those that are more highly ranked) have been charging International Student tuition surcharges and extra International Student fees. Definitely based on citizenship status.
They aren't currently charging based on citizen status. It's based on residency. This whole thread is about DACA. They are allowed in-state rates based on residency even though they aren't citizens.
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:27 AM
 
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They aren't currently charging based on citizen status. It's based on residency.
No, it's by citizenship status. By definition, students living in a college town to attend school there are "residents." Just not for tuition purposes. I already posted the UC system's explanation of that. Why do you think parents' income/assets are considered on the FAFSA (financial aid) unless a teen has gone through the legal emancipation process?
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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No, it's by citizenship status.
Then why are DACA charged in-state rates if they live in that state? They aren't citizens.
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:33 AM
 
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AND......did you know some state universities offer out of state - in state tuition as an incentive to go to their school.

Universities offer kids all kinds of benefits.
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:33 AM
 
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Then why are DACA charged in-state rates if they live in that state? They aren't citizens.
They shouldn't be. That's the entire point of this thread.
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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They shouldn't be. That's the entire point of this thread.
But you said that colleges currently charged based on citizenship. Just a few posts below.
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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But you said that colleges currently charged based on citizenship. Just a few posts below.
They do. I posted several examples.
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