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Old 06-20-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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IF they're "victims" as stated, why should they be considered criminals?
"IF they're "victims" as stated, why should they be considered criminals?"

"ignorance of the law is no excuse'' we have been told since we were kids.

When you enter our country ILLEGALLY you ARE A CRIMINAL, no matter what the age.

 
Old 06-20-2018, 10:43 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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The cracks in the facade won't be able to be patched much longer.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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It's amazing how backwards you have it.
Trump isn't giving the Ministry of Truth much to work with, is he?
 
Old 06-20-2018, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Just wanted to provide a source in case anyone cries that this is "fake news"

“We’re going to be signing an executive order in a little while,” Mr. Trump said Wednesday. “We’ve got to be keeping families together."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/u...ive-order.html
 
Old 06-20-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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the problem with an executive order is an executive order can be undone by another executive order. Just ask the former president.

better to have legislation.

the congress is so inept, so partisan, so worthless.
Don't worry----that's all going to be part of the deal.

He just played the Democrats big time!
 
Old 06-20-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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I'd say the left won this one. And they didn't have to do anything but show the country what was happening, in graphic detail.

Public opinion was against Trump by a wide margin, and the GOP was hearing outrage from their constituents.

Public opinion matters. Mr. Trump just learned that lesson. And I bet it stings.
I partly agree with this. I'd go so far to say that illegal immigrants are the winners in all of this

Now they can continue to pipeline unaccompanied minors and children with smugglers up to our borders and be given a pass for to get in

The left created a fake narrative and then ran with it. The media spread it like wildfire to the point where people were believing we were running another Auschwitz

Now the Pope, 4 exFirst Ladies, the PM of the England, and the UN are parroting the nonsense.

And now Trump needs a legislative win on Thursday to make it appear as if he isn't giving into the fringe left.

At the end of the day, this doesn't really solve anything for Trump, the Left will manufacture another crises before the Summer is out and right before the mid terms because they'll need it.

You can bookmark this and come back in September and you'll see that I was right
 
Old 06-20-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The boys were recruited into gangs and used for child labor (a case was just on the news). As for the girls,you don't wanna know what happened to them.

Why isn't propaganda media reporting that most of these unaccompanied kids are boys? A lot of them were probably gang bangers in their home countries or at the very least their parents were happy to get rid of them.
So, you are saying that ICE turned those kids over to gangs and pimps?

I'm waiting for the OP to let us know what happened to them before I wax hypothetical or hyperbolic.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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the problem with an executive order is an executive order can be undone by another executive order. Just ask the former president.

better to have legislation.

the congress is so inept, so partisan, so worthless.
There's apparently going to be legislation as well. Congress are voting on it tomorrow.

Probably why Trump made this announcement today to make it look like it was his idea.

I mean he couldn't look any worse could he? Trying to save his own skin.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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It all boils down to getting Trump out of office sooner than later. He's just been giving himself more and more rope to hang himself.
 
Old 06-20-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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MAGA by putting babies and toddlers in jail.

He had better sign something. Better yet, all he has to do is to pick up the phone and end this soulless policy that he implemented all by himself - oh, with the help of Beauretard Sessions, of course.
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