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View Poll Results: Which one do you ban?
Gun number A should be banned. 3 50.00%
Gun number B should be banned. 1 16.67%
Gun number C should be banned. 2 33.33%
Gun number D should be banned. 0 0%
Voters: 6. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-13-2018, 11:06 PM
 
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The AK is actually the only gun shown that comes in a full-auto version so that's the logical choice in my book. Now if the things were a little more accurate, they might get a lot more love from gun enthusiasts. Still, under present laws, the full-auto AK is the one most of us can't buy. The rest of them, no problem, especially the BB gun.
Most of us CAN buy it. It’s expensive, but it can be done.
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Old 05-13-2018, 11:16 PM
 
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Why would they be pissed off if they're still able to vote, but just need to complete extra steps to ensure that morons and idiots cannot vote so easily?

If that pisses them off, I'll suggest that they aren't exactly stable individuals themselves.
Gee, that works well with other rights, too.

Isn’t this fun?
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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A lot of guns are not banned in countries that Americans consider to have strict gun laws such as the UK.

People still use rifles, shotguns and other weapons for sport or to gunt in the UK.

Guns you can legally buy in the UK - Business Insider
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I could not vote, because there is no "None of the above" choice.
The Garand was never built in select fire. It was never capable of full-automatic fire. The M1A (M14) was select fire in the later versions. The pictured Garand is either photo-shopped, or somebody modified the stock. An issue Garand never had such an ugly stock!
The M2 Carbine was select fire. That is the full-auto version of the M1 carbine. I carried an M1 Carbine in 'Nam, because it was small and light. the M16 was not available yet. I left my M14 hanging on the wall over my bunk.
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:16 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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A lot of guns are not banned in countries that Americans consider to have strict gun laws such as the UK.

People still use rifles, shotguns and other weapons for sport or to gunt in the UK.

Guns you can legally buy in the UK - Business Insider
Provided you qualify for a license. I would ask if you would go along having to be licensed to practice freedom of speech or religion but, since you are in the UK, you don't have those rights either.
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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This sounds reasonable.

Good luck with that.

It's funny, really - the odd kind, not the "ha ha ha" kind, that the more I read about this, the more I think the problem is more about people and less about guns themselves.

I used to be opposed to any and all guns. My politics haven't really shifted since then, except for this one issue. I have no problem with gun ownership now, provided that it's responsible ownership, with proper attention given to training and safety...and the ability to keep some people from having these weapons, if their past actions have demonstrated they are incapable of using them responsibly.

I am going to make a comparison, and I know it will draw a lot of criticism from people who say that driving is not a right enshrined in the Constitution, but really...let's look at this in the same way we look at driving.

A car can be deadly. If you misuse your car, you can lose the right to drive it. Before you are allowed to drive, you must prove that you can do so competently.

A car is probably more of a necessity for most people than a gun, yet you can lose your driver's license if you are reckless with your car. It doesn't matter if the car is an ageing Ford Escort or a Ferrari - if you misuse it, you lose it.

Why should guns be different?
Just to be able to hunt in CA. I had to retake the hunter safety course, two days of education and training and one has to be able to show how to handle every type of firearm. Then, I have to pass a written exam for both a long gun and a hand gun. Once I fill out the paper work I have to endure a lengthy back ground check for both the ammo and firearm that "I" get to pay for. One I decide on a firearm it has to be paid for and stored at the FFL and I get to pay for the transaction and the storage. 10 days later I am finally able to pick it up once they are assured I have an expensive safe to put it in and, depending on the gun, a CA compliant locking case. On top of that there are restrictions on how I can transport it home and it's up to me to understand that.

I'd say it's much harder to buy a firearm than a car.
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Well. I was issued both a Garand and a M14 during my Marine Corps years during Vietnam. Both of course are completely outdated in today’s military. At one time in my service I rebuilt probably hundreds of Garands for transfer to South Vietnam. Removed the cosmoline, sandblasted, parkerized and reassembled.

The Garand had only an 8 round clip. The Italians built a post war version with a larger capacity magazine under the stock. In my experience the selector switch for full auto M14’s was only issued on a limited basis in combat. Had a heavy barrel and a bipod.
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Old 05-14-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Provided you qualify for a license. I would ask if you would go along having to be licensed to practice freedom of speech or religion but, since you are in the UK, you don't have those rights either.
Providing you don't have a criminal record for serious violence or are currently suffering from a serious psychaitric disorder then it's fairly straight forward.

Fitness to be Entrusted with Firearms - Durham Constabulary

The UK has the same rights in relation to freedom of speech and freedom of religion as layed out in the European Convetion on Human Rights and 1998 Human Rights Act.

See Articles 9 and 10.

The Human Rights Act (1998)
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Old 05-14-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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I think NO GUN SHOULD BE BANNED except other than fully automatic (machine guns). And full auto should be allowed under today's ATF strict controls

My answer is none of the above
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Old 05-14-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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I say we ban the AR as the other three are more preferable IMO.
Preferable to who?????????

None need to be banned
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