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Originally Posted by MLSFan
instead of outright banning guns, i favor the german system of permits for guns, different permit for different type/number of guns
at least then people need to be trained for each kind of gun they own, assuming classes are required for the permit, if not, its a money making scheme for the state
yes, i know a safety class wont stop someone from murdering, but it stops the idiots shooting themselves in the foot or parents leaving it out for the kids
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Not really...
Exhibit A
https://youtu.be/vfONckOPyaI
Then there's many videos of those "trained" that shoot themselves...
I recall a few threads where those who were trained had been shot by their offspring, their offspring shot themselves by finding a weapon.
Over confidence and a "it'll never happen to me" attitude combined with the forbidden fruit approach to firearms = Darwin Parenting award.
Far as parents go...
It's simple really.
Ladies, don't leave pistols in purses. You have far better options to carry concealed than a purse. Kids are attracted to purses like moths to a flame. Besides that's the first thing a burglar goes for. Alot of good that purse, clutch, bag is when some rapscallion takes off running with it...
(Had to shoot my own sister with her pistol in a simunition class to show her how foolish leaving a pistol in a purse is, now she has a garter holster for dresses/skirts, Sticky holster for pants/shorts for waistband, corset holster, and a bra holster that puts the weapon in her weak arms armpit, and spare mags in her strong arms armpit. Women have more, and better options than their hand bags for concealed carry)
She was of the same attitude, oh that would never happen. Nobody grabs a purse runs, and shifts through it while running. I keep it close and tight to me under my arm.
broke the straps and made 10 paces before I had the weapon and spun around putting all 8 shots in her chest. Blink of an eye I had that purse. 5 seconds she was dead on the ground if that were live ammo.
Fellas, don't leave your weapon on the night stand while junior roams about.
There's plenty of hide away options within an arms reach of where you rest your head at night, that junior can't access.
Like the head board to my bed.
Is it really a head board or do you need an RFID card near the bottom right corner to have a foam cut out tray drop down with an AR Shotgun 2 pistols and spare mags?
Did it cost money? Sure it did. Some day down the road I'd like to have kids. A bedside lock box is useless to me. Running down the hall to the spare bedroom full of safes exposes me should an armed intruder be inside at 2 am. There's also the risk of the girlfriend being nerve wracked and mistaking me for the bad guy. Hence-shouting a password to come back down the hallway so she doesn't plug me.
There's only so much one can train for. And that money for training can be saved with common sense.
Again... common sense isn't a common commodity. There are 2 things you cant teach.
Common sense and ambition.
If you're going to have kids and guns... at the very least, do not create an allure with the "forbidden fruit" approach. You'll win a Darwin parenting award as quick with the forbidden fruit approach as one would carelessly leaving a weapon laying around...
But honestly, how many folks reproduce that you wouldn't trust raising a puppy, let alone a child these days? Whether they have firearms in the house or not...
Will training reduce the occurrences? Probably. Only so much.
All it takes is one moment of forgetfulness like the Air Marshall that left their sidearm in the bathroom and some folks coming to justify it as, oh they're over worked, under paid, tired, accidents happen, you'd do the same...
No. My holsters are in waistband. If I have to drop my drawers to squat, the holsters stay right in the pants at my ankles. There's no forgetting. 1911s aren't particularly light. Neither are Glock 19s. Lift pants you're getting smacked in the ankle with the mag well.
The toilet tank is not a good place, the chit ticket dispenser is not a good place, neither is the sink.
You're already in a compromising situation/position. Why leave it out of your immediate reach to potentially be forgotten?
With regards to training, it's more of developing good habits than it is the 4 simple rules and keeping your booger hooks off the bangswitch at all times.
What works for some won't work for others.
Some folks are portly and can't carry in waist band, their done flop will push it out or surely print.
Some folks love their bulky 6 shooters and need dirty Harry's suspenders holster. Some folks like useless belly blasters that fit in the palm of their hand and keep them in their pockets.
Some folks like Austrian plastic fantastics with bulky slides.
Some folks have limited range of motion and can't have a holster in a cross draw position.
What habits work for you might not work for me. What habits work for me doesn't work for most.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have 3420 rounds to put away. 3,000 to go on stripper clips for this weekends tournament.
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