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Old 05-16-2018, 06:04 PM
 
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Did you try to find a less biased news source?

I don’t know the truth but usually there is more than one side to these stories.

“A Mansfield ISD elementary school art teacher was suspended after the district received complaints from parents about her discussing her sexual orientation with elementary-aged students, district officials said Tuesday afternoon.”

The statement later says that MISD administrators met with Bailey more than once after receiving complaints from parents but that “Ms. Bailey refused to follow administration’s directions regarding age-appropriate conversation with students.”

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/mans...usive-language
I read four articles all together, all from trustworthy news sources. 'Grats on finding one that said parents instead of parent.

 
Old 05-16-2018, 06:36 PM
 
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Do some of you think that teachers live on another planet? None of you have teachers who are your neighbors? You don't have children who go to the same school where your neighbor teaches and are friend's with neighbor teacher's children? Sorry, you cannot go to Joseph's house to play with John because his Mom or Dad is a teacher at your school? They might see their "personal" life in their home?

While this might happen in a big city, not in a suburb or rural area. When I was a Para in the local school, my daughters had friends from the neighborhood who came over my house. Personal life? They could tell you the names of my cats and what I made for dinner. Geesch. Or maybe that was ok because my lifestyle was the "correct" one?

Edit: Forget Coaches. They might invite the entire team, and parents, over to their house for a BBQ/Pool Party after a big game. And see their "private life". My Millennial daughter talks about "Helicopter Parents" of today. I am beginning to understand what she means by that.

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Old 05-16-2018, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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They are connecting alright. More frequently and for the wrong reasons or is this the academic excellence you talk about. The boundry between student and teacher gets lost.

Conners is the third teacher in the Tri-State to be either indicted or convicted in the past six months, and the third female educator. Stacy Shuler, a Mason High School teacher, was convicted of 16 counts of having sex with several teenage male students last fall.

Psychologist explains pattern of student-teacher sexual relation - Cincinnati News, Weather, Sports from FOX19 NOW-WXIX

More teachers are having sex with their students.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...can-stop-them/

A 14-year-old student in Florida wrote his cellphone number on a classroom chalkboard because he wanted a classmate he liked to call him. The student indeed was contacted – not by the girl but allegedly by his 32-year-old teacher.

In Pennsylvania, a 33-year-old teacher approached a 17-year-old student at a school dance and began flirting with him

Unfortunately, these kinds of stories are becoming more common across the country. In 2014 alone, there were 781 reported cases of teachers and other school employees accused or convicted of sexual relationships with students.
Don't move the goal posts. That is irrelevant because teacher-student affairs happened for many years, long before they were actually "chummy" with students. I mean yes, it seems like an epidemic today with all these stories, but not much different than the past. It has long been romanticized in movies, TV series, alternative universe Fan-Fiction, and yes pornography of teenage girls wanting to stay after with the cute male teacher or student teacher or the teenage male getting a note from the female teacher. You don't think that most male posters fantasized about a teacher or two on here, or even a female? I found a recent CBS article that included cases from the 2000's including some more of the famous cases... https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/not...-sex-scandals/ The only thing I will give you is that it is far easier to continue the conversations with Snapchat, What'sApp and other messaging services.

Regardless of the reasons the teachers seek the attention of the teenage students, they are messed up and need help or perhaps needed help years ago. I'm appalled by this but realize a good number of the teachers were victims themselves, especially the more famous textbook cases. That said, this has little to do with a teacher talking about their family situation at all, the reason for this thread in the first place.
 
Old 05-17-2018, 06:53 AM
 
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Do some of you think that teachers live on another planet? None of you have teachers who are your neighbors? You don't have children who go to the same school where your neighbor teaches and are friend's with neighbor teacher's children? Sorry, you cannot go to Joseph's house to play with John because his Mom or Dad is a teacher at your school? They might see their "personal" life in their home?

While this might happen in a big city, not in a suburb or rural area. When I was a Para in the local school, my daughters had friends from the neighborhood who came over my house. Personal life? They could tell you the names of my cats and what I made for dinner. Geesch. Or maybe that was ok because my lifestyle was the "correct" one?

Edit: Forget Coaches. They might invite the entire team, and parents, over to their house for a BBQ/Pool Party after a big game. And see their "private life". My Millennial daughter talks about "Helicopter Parents" of today. I am beginning to understand what she means by that.
I know a teacher who invites her class and their parents to a pool party at the end of every school year. But I guess that's okay because she's married to a man.
 
Old 05-17-2018, 07:03 AM
 
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I know a teacher who invites her class and their parents to a pool party at the end of every school year. But I guess that's okay because she's married to a man.
Many of the pedophile teachers in the pervious links were married and some had children of their own. Their youngest victims were 9 and 10 years old. The same age as the kids in the OP's example.
Does it matter ? Apparently not. Single, married, and to who isn't important to them. After thought maybe. After they were caught.

Two of the pedophile teachers offended at a beach party for students.

A teacher in todays #metoo movement is crazy to risk their careers and everything else having events like this. IMO

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Old 05-17-2018, 07:20 AM
 
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Many of the pedophile teachers in the pervious links were married and some had children of their own. Their youngest victims were 9 and 10 years old. The same age as the kids in the OP's example.
Does it matter ? Apparently not. Single, married, and to who isn't important to them.
Get to know your neighbors (teachers or not), and the parents of your children's friends. That is a major part of parenting. Your children are only allowed inside your own home? As my daughter says, Helicopter Parents. So terrified something bad will happen to them? Let go. Sooner or later they will have to be exposed to the outside world, and will have to deal with it, including seeing unmarried straight couples living together, and gay marriages. If not, they will be living in your basement when they are 25 years old.
 
Old 05-17-2018, 07:37 AM
 
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Now that we've reached post #349 I'd like to again interject that I think teachers have become too chummy or friendly with students and part of that is sharing their personal lives. I think it lessens the respect or the "mystery" if you will that the students should have for the teachers.
Even as recent as the early 2000's my son knew little to nothing of his teachers lives outside of the classroom.
Well, way back in the 80s I knew that my drama teacher was married to my English teacher, and that they had 2 kids, their third was born during the next school year and we had a party for them at school. I knew that my math teacher was in the Army reserve, and was moving over the summer to get married. I knew that my science teacher and his wife worked with a zoo and that their daughter got to name a tiger cub, I also knew that he loved reading Stephen King, and had an alpaca. I knew that an English lit teacher was divorced and remarried. I knew that the geography teacher married a former student the year she graduated too.

Maybe your son just isn't paying attention.
 
Old 05-17-2018, 07:41 AM
 
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Well, way back in the 80s I knew that my drama teacher was married to my English teacher, and that they had 2 kids, their third was born during the next school year and we had a party for them at school. I knew that my math teacher was in the Army reserve, and was moving over the summer to get married. I knew that my science teacher and his wife worked with a zoo and that their daughter got to name a tiger cub, I also knew that he loved reading Stephen King, and had an alpaca. I knew that an English lit teacher was divorced and remarried. I knew that the geography teacher married a former student the year she graduated too.

Maybe your son just isn't paying attention.
Yeah............or maybe he didn't get the slide show on the first day of class.
 
Old 05-17-2018, 07:57 AM
 
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Yeah............or maybe he didn't get the slide show on the first day of class.
I never saw a slideshow. All information I got was from interacting with teachers 5 days a week. Teachers are humans.

The funny thing is, my science teacher instilled a life long love of reading by sharing his books. My drama and English teachers taught me about carpentry, I still use that knowledge to this day. My math teacher well, I still hate math.
I learned a lot from my teachers and a lot of it had nothing to do with the subjects they taught.
 
Old 05-17-2018, 07:57 AM
 
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Many of the pedophile teachers in the pervious links were married and some had children of their own. Their youngest victims were 9 and 10 years old. The same age as the kids in the OP's example.
Does it matter ? Apparently not. Single, married, and to who isn't important to them. After thought maybe. After they were caught.

Two of the pedophile teachers offended at a beach party for students.

A teacher in todays #metoo movement is crazy to risk their careers and everything else having events like this. IMO
That's why she insists the parents come too.

*shrug*
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