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President Trump's empty promises (lies) about his health insurance plans now become evident as Americans, wittingly or not, face more expensive and worse health insurance programs.
Trump's promises: <<Lost amid the pundits’ applause for President Trump’s calmer demeanor in his speech to Congress Tuesday was a key shift that received far less national attention: the abandonment of promises made by candidate and President-elect Trump on healthcare.
“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in press conference Jan. 11. “We’re going to have a healthcare that is far less expensive and far better.”
Or, as he said in a September 2015 “60 Minutes” interview, “I am going to take care of everybody. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”>>
A Yahoo article this morning explains what the Republican Trumpcare solutions actually mean for millions of Americans. It's sad and scary reading. Trumpcare essentially is cheap health insurance for the healthy; too bad if you actually need health care insurance.
<<President Donald Trump has crowed about dismantling the Affordable Care Act, even as he has failed to repeal it. But his efforts on health care, so far, are likely to hurt people who aren’t even covered by the ACA.
One group of health-care consumers have had a rough go during the last several years: The 6.7 million Americans who aren’t covered by an employer, who buy insurance on the individual market and who earn too much money to qualify for subsidies under the ACA. These folks tend to be self-employed or work as independent contractors, and insurance premiums for a husband and wife can top $20,000 or even $30,000 a year. Those between 55 and 64 tend to pay the most. (Medicare kicks in once people turn 65.)
Trump wants to help people trim their health-insurance bill, and he has introduced several measures that will help — but only for people who don’t get hurt or sick. People who have pre-existing conditions, or want a comprehensive policy, won’t enjoy any savings. >>
Many Americans may be getting "cheaper" insurance, but they likely will receive limited benefits:
<<Opting for one of the new plans will typically be cheaper — but they’ll cover far less. For starters, temporary and skinny plans generally don’t cover pre-existing conditions. They also offer limited or no coverage for things such as maternity care, substance abuse and mental health treatment. Some of these plans also put a cap on the amount they’ll pay out, so they don’t really cover catastrophic care. “These plans cover a few illnesses, but they’re not really insurance,” says Sara Collins of the Commonwealth Fund. “People don’t always know what they’re getting.”>>
All Americans will suffer to the extent that sick Americans incur unpaid bills at hospitals and other healthcare providers and as collection expenses soar and are passed on to all insurance programs and patients. Sick Americans won't receive needed treatments, impairing their ability to work and likely once again burdening emergency rooms with patients seeking primary care.
Despite campaign promises, Trump has blocked efforts at price controls on drugs. Drug prices remain much higher in the U.S. than in Canada and Europe and much, much higher than markets such as China and India.
Here's another article about the reality of Trumpcare and the consequences of destroying Obamacare.
All Americans will suffer to the extent that sick Americans incur unpaid bills at hospitals and other healthcare providers and as collection expenses soar and are passed on to all insurance programs and patients. Sick Americans won't receive needed treatments, impairing their ability to work and likely once again burdening emergency rooms with patients seeking primary care.
Despite campaign promises, Trump has blocked efforts at price controls on drugs. Drug prices remain much higher in the U.S. than in Canada and Europe and much, much higher than markets such as China and India.
Here's another article about the reality of Trumpcare and the consequences of destroying Obamacare.
Health insurance cost increases slowed down during ACA and have picked back up again.
Insurance company executives explain that this is due to the uncertainty in the marketplace.
What isn't uncertain is that we will all be picking up the unpaid hospital bills. We all will be paying for those where lack of medical care impacts their ability to work.
States that didn't get on board with ACA have seen rural hospitals close at a steady rate. When the only people with insurance are those on Medicare, hospitals just can't afford to stay open.
Medical practices close when the hospitals close.
In the not so distant future, in many rural area, the only person in the community with any medical training with be the local pharmacists. If there is an urgent care clinic connected to the pharmacy, there might be some P.A.s as well.
However, urgent care clinics are for prescribing antibiotics, casting broken arms. They aren't equipped for heart attacks, strokes, childbirth, ... Whether they can stay open in communities where there is not a single hospital with an emergency room to refer to remains to be seen.
Which essentially means, that without a viable insurance option for low-income rural residents, they will have limited, if any, access to medical care.
Whether or not ACA was the "right solution" is certainly debatable.
What is not debatable:
-On the whole, healthcare cost inflation slowed during ACA
-Since Trump has begun to dismantle it, costs have begun to rise again
-ACA was an improvement over what we had before it (if not a final solution)
-Current "plan" is a step backwards.
Some will dispute this, but they do so from an emotional perspective. Objectively, they are verifiably wrong.
Until people admit the medical industry is a scam, prices will remain high. Yes, you must admit your doctor is a scam artist too. In bed with the pharma companies convincing you you have illnesses that don't really exist so they can put you on medication you don't really need. While the government continues to promote your unhealthy, bread, grains, and vegetables diet that only makes you less healthy.
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Health insurance cost increases slowed down during ACA and have picked back up again.
Insurance company executives explain that this is due to the uncertainty in the marketplace.
What isn't uncertain is that we will all be picking up the unpaid hospital bills. We all will be paying for those where lack of medical care impacts their ability to work.
That's a given.
What's certain is candidate trump told us time after time he would have a far better than the ACA plan in place soon after taking office.
Typical of his empty talk, a claim still unsupported by action.
The ACA was instituted with the best of intentions to give Americans a more affordable healthcare option however republicans did everything they could to ensure the program failed ,now we have trumpcare https://www.google.ca/search?ei=y2cF....0.yXRPPqXdL6w
The ACA was instituted with the best of intentions to give Americans a more affordable healthcare option however republicans did everything they could to ensure the program failed ,now we have trumpcare https://www.google.ca/search?ei=y2cF....0.yXRPPqXdL6w
No.
ACA was written and approved by the insurance companies.
If ACA is such a bad deal for insurers, why are they raking in billions in profits?
If ACA is such a bad deal for big pharma, why are they raking in billions in profits?
If ACA is such a bad deal for consumers, why are they paying thousands in premiums and deductibles, never reaching the point where insurance companies start kicking in?
Oh wait .... right.
The ACA was criminal. It was extortion for the American people. And most are too brainwashed to ever *get it*, still arguing clinton, bush, obama, trump and hillary. Which is exactly where the corporations want the *debate*. All about the spokespeople, never about the issue.
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