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Netanyahu was obviously wrong. Going into Iraq was one of (if not THE) worst mistakes Bush ever made during his presidency, though I think being heavily influenced by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld played a huge role in it. Those guys were itching for war from the moment Bush took the oath of office and 9/11 just made it much easier for them to eventually have their way.
Netanyahu was obviously wrong. Going into Iraq was one of (if not THE) worst mistakes Bush ever made during his presidency, though I think being heavily influenced by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld played a huge role in it.
Iraq was harboring terrorists and likely did have the chemical weapons. They had months to move them all to Syria and as we k ow there are a lot of them there. Iraq was very belligerent toward the US after 9-11 and was indeed a potential threat. The decision to invade Iraq was a legitimate one. Most Americans in 2003 agreed with this as did most politicians who voted to authorize the war. It was an aggressive climate then in the wake of watching our nation suffer a massive unprovoked attack of the likes not seen since Pearl Harbor. Legitimate anger and a legitimate response IMO.
Liberals often cite the Iraq war as a failure and compare it to Vietnam. Well that is wrong, Iraq is a democratic state which has a cooperative government. The ISIS unrest had nothing to do with the US/ Iraq war but rather it spilled over from Syrias civil war and they have come together and dealt with that. No doubt that Iraq today is growing into a more successful nation, though problems remain. The reason these lefties like to call Iraq a loss and a failure is simple......they want to score political points. How disrespectful to the hundreds of thousands of veterans who fought and bled in the Iraq war. Pathetic. The Iraq war was a military victory and I thank those who served in our armed forces (and our allies) for doing thier duties well.
Was it worth the blood and treasure? Was it done proper? These are the areas where there is more legitimate concerns. Many believe a larger force should have been used to end the war quicker, it should not have taken 6 years to quell the resistance. Billions were spent and thousands of Americans were killed. When Iraq became a tough fought war many pro Iraq war Americans suddenly didn’t support it. We need to stick to our guns when we make decisions, if we decide wat is necessary we fight until we win. If we don’t have that level of commitment then we should not be doing it. Hillary Clinton is a perfect example of this, once she voted for and supported the war she should have supported the efforts to its successful conclusion. If you can’t support it when things get tough then don’t support it.
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Iraq was harboring terrorists and likely did have the chemical weapons. They had months to move them all to Syria and as we k ow there are a lot of them there. Iraq was very belligerent toward the US after 9-11 and was indeed a potential threat. The decision to invade Iraq was a legitimate one. Most Americans in 2003 agreed with this as did most politicians who voted to authorize the war. It was an aggressive climate then in the wake of watching our nation suffer a massive unprovoked attack of the likes not seen since Pearl Harbor. Legitimate anger and a legitimate response IMO.
Cheney himself told us time after time after time that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, finding the plotters of which should have been our main focus at the time.
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Originally Posted by danielj72
Liberals often cite the Iraq war as a failure and compare it to Vietnam. Well that is wrong, Iraq is a democratic state which has a cooperative government. The ISIS unrest had nothing to do with the US/ Iraq war but rather it spilled over from Syrias civil war and they have come together and dealt with that. No doubt that Iraq today is growing into a more successful nation, though problems remain. The reason these lefties like to call Iraq a loss and a failure is simple......they want to score political points. How disrespectful to the hundreds of thousands of veterans who fought and bled in the Iraq war. Pathetic. The Iraq war was a military victory and I thank those who served in our armed forces (and our allies) for doing thier duties well.
The Iraq invasion/occupation was every bit the mistake Vietnam was, thankfully it cost far fewer American lives. WHY should any American taxpayer give a rat's ass if Iraq is a "democratic state" at our expense? NO WHERE does the Constitution task us with bringing democracy to others and it's a damn silly thing to do considering we don't have a democracy ourselves.
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Originally Posted by danielj72
Was it worth the blood and treasure? Was it done proper? These are the areas where there is more legitimate concerns. Many believe a larger force should have been used to end the war quicker, it should not have taken 6 years to quell the resistance. Billions were spent and thousands of Americans were killed. When Iraq became a tough fought war many pro Iraq war Americans suddenly didn’t support it. We need to stick to our guns when we make decisions, if we decide wat is necessary we fight until we win. If we don’t have that level of commitment then we should not be doing it. Hillary Clinton is a perfect example of this, once she voted for and supported the war she should have supported the efforts to its successful conclusion. If you can’t support it when things get tough then don’t support it.
HOW do you do a war 'proper' when it's a war you have no business starting in the first place?
The neo-cons were anxious for a war from the get go.
When they were trying to frighten everyone with talk of WMD, they weren't talking about chemical weapons that were moved and hidden in Syria, they were talking about mushroom clouds and yellowcake from Niger -- nuclear weapons.
Cheney and Rumsfeld trotted that lying con man Chabali around. Where did he ever end up?
Cheney himself told us time after time after time that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, finding the plotters of which should have been our main focus at the time.
The Iraq invasion/occupation was every bit the mistake Vietnam was, thankfully it cost far fewer American lives. WHY should any American taxpayer give a rat's ass if Iraq is a "democratic state" at our expense? NO WHERE does the Constitution task us with bringing democracy to others and it's a damn silly thing to do considering we don't have a democracy ourselves.
HOW do you do a war 'proper' when it's a war you have no business starting in the first place?
Exactly. When even Trump says that going into Iraq was a mistake, that’s when you know you really f’ed up! Lol
The neo-cons were anxious for a war from the get go.
When they were trying to frighten everyone with talk of WMD, they weren't talking about chemical weapons that were moved and hidden in Syria, they were talking about mushroom clouds and yellowcake from Niger -- nuclear weapons.
Cheney and Rumsfeld trotted that lying con man Chabali around. Where did he ever end up?
I agree.
According to Paul O'Neil first Secretary of the Treasury, the attack on Iraq was being planned from day 1 of his tenure. This was well before 9/11.
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