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Say I'm walking through the ghetto at night and I get mugged. Well, perhaps I shouldn't have walked through the ghetto at night alone huh?
Say I'm a girl who decides to get drunk and high on God knows what drugs in the middle of a bunch of hypersexualized jocks who have always been taught that girls were just playthings.
Why is it that we can't bring up some basic common sense safety tips without being accused of victim blaming?
Say I'm walking through the ghetto at night and I get mugged. Well, perhaps I shouldn't have walked through the ghetto at night alone huh?
Say I'm a girl who decides to get drunk and high on God knows what drugs in the middle of a bunch of hypersexualized jocks who have always been taught that girls were just playthings.
Why is it that we can't bring up some basic common sense safety tips without being accused of victim blaming?
You are free to say whatever you want. People are free to call you out on being an insensitive jerk. If you have a specific case in mind go ahead and start a thread on it. Nobody is stopping you.
Say I'm walking through the ghetto at night and I get mugged. Well, perhaps I shouldn't have walked through the ghetto at night alone huh?
Say I'm a girl who decides to get drunk and high on God knows what drugs in the middle of a bunch of hypersexualized jocks who have always been taught that girls were just playthings.
Why is it that we can't bring up some basic common sense safety tips without being accused of victim blaming?
For example, teaching your little sister about how to reduce risk in social situations is helpful. But telling a rape victim "I told you so" is at least insensitive, no?
Why is it that we can't bring up some basic common sense safety tips without being accused of victim blaming?
...because feminists have staked out their territory on this issue. Women, they've decided, may do whatever they want. Period. They may not be limited in how they behave, not even by common sense, and defending this claim is a far higher priority than any woman's safety.
...because feminists have staked out their territory on this issue. Women, they've decided, may do whatever they want. Period. They may not be limited in how they behave, not even by common sense, and defending this claim is a far higher priority than any woman's safety.
Do you have daughters? Or sisters? Or a mother? Why don't you go talk to them, or any woman, and tell them that the reason for rape is the way they dress? Let us know how that goes for you once you heal up.
It isn't feminism to blame the man who commits the rape; it's simple logic. Quite frankly, I don't care if a woman walks down the street naked. If a man assaults her because of what she is(n't) wearing he has broken the non-aggression principle and needs to either spend the rest of his life behind bars or be given an object lesson in how a bull is turned into a steer.
Quite frankly, I don't care if a woman walks down the street naked. If a man assaults her because of what she is(n't) wearing he has broken the non-aggression principle and needs to either spend the rest of his life behind bars or be given an object lesson in how a bull is turned into a steer.
Meanwhile, the woman has still suffered an assault, one that might have been avoided had she acted with common sense.
Meanwhile, the woman has still suffered an assault, one that might have been avoided had she acted with common sense.
No question that rape can be avoided in many cases through common sense, and I teach my daughters to practice safety at all times. However, looking at a woman after she has been raped and saying "You could have avoided this by doing X, Y, or Z" isn't something that anyone should do. The time to discuss common sense and rape avoidance is before the rape, not immediately after it.
It doesn't matter what a woman does, she doesn't get blamed for a man forcing his penis into any of her orifices without permission. EVER.
Read this until your eyes bleed. NEVER WITHOUT PERMISSION.
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Originally Posted by HockeyMac18
It's really that simple.
OP has a warped perspective on this.
The bottom line is, they weren't there and it did not happen to them. Some appear to not have compassion or understanding, where other men do. Even if a woman passes out for whatever reason, it is not her fault if having been taken advantage of.
It's easy for one to say to another, "Well, you should not have been walking alone", "You should not have gone to a club that night", "You should not have had anything to drink", "You should not have been alone with that guy", "You should not have had vistiors and become under the influence". Of course, there is common sense involved, to not invite trouble, placing a female in the situation of having to be "on guard". With the kinds of societal situations that have continued to exist, it unfortunately allows for opportunities of risk.
Somewhat related - I had a male neighbor mention the "me too movement", implying it had "gotten out of hand". After going over some points about it with him, how one proven false claim does create doubt and a negative outlook, I thought I should have stressed that his not being a woman makes a difference. Though there may be those making false claims, which undoubtedly is not the majority, it creates an attitude of "if one is fake, most others must be".
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