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I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.
But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.
American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.
The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.
I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.
But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.
American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.
The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.
You apparently can't imagine what US waiting times are today either.
I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.
But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.
American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.
The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.
My Mom was brought into emergency just outside of Toronto last Friday. She was seen immediately -- not life threatening..
I've been in emergency rooms in Toronto area and waited no time & other times have waited a long time. Everything from breathing problems, broken bones, ear aches, etc. They seem to be take you i immediately when necessary.
It's about looking after the people who are more critical.
AND -- did you know that every province has a different health care system.
So what happened in this one area of Vancouver cannot be considered a universal anectdote for all Canadian Health care systems.
I know -- it's so hard to make sure you have all the information....especially when your source probably only provided you with the information they WANTED you to have.
Here's how medicine works here. You go to your GP, no appointment, just go over and sign in on his sheet (there are no receptionists). Mine is in practice with 2 other GPs and a host of specialists (you do have to make appts. with specialists).
Last time I saw my GP I went over about 9AM and saw him at 9:45. After listening to my complaint he did an exam and decided he wanted me to have a doppler ultrasound. He calls the local lab himself and gets me an appointment in 45 minutes. I go to the lab where the radiologist (not a technician) is expecting me and he does the hour long test himself (not a technician, the doctors do their own testing). Test took almost an hour. He asks me to sit in the waiting room so he can write the report for my doctor. As promised he gives me the report and the test results and he prepares the bill (no receptionist)...it was 1200 pesos, about 70 bucks. I pay cash and go back to my GP with the report and results. Good news he says, nothing serious, but he prescribes some anti-inflammatories and gives me some printed exercises to do some light physio at home. He tells me my bill (300 pesos or 17 bucks) and I pay him.
I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.
But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.
American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.
The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.
Actually studies have shown that unhealthy lifestyles are less dollars on a healthcare system. They don't live as long. One of the most expensive medical services is nursing homes. Unhealthy people are less likely ever to use that service.
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Here's how medicine works here. You go to your GP, no appointment, just go over and sign in on his sheet (there are no receptionists). Mine is in practice with 2 other GPs and a host of specialists (you do have to make appts. with specialists).
Last time I saw my GP I went over about 9AM and saw him at 9:45. After listening to my complaint he did an exam and decided he wanted me to have a doppler ultrasound. He calls the local lab himself and gets me an appointment in 45 minutes. I go to the lab where the radiologist (not a technician) is expecting me and he does the hour long test himself (not a technician, the doctors do their own testing). Test took almost an hour. He asks me to sit in the waiting room so he can write the report for my doctor. As promised he gives me the report and the test results and he prepares the bill (no receptionist)...it was 1200 pesos, about 70 bucks. I pay cash and go back to my GP with the report and results. Good news he says, nothing serious, but he prescribes some anti-inflammatories and gives me some printed exercises to do some light physio at home. He tells me my bill (300 pesos or 17 bucks) and I pay him.
All this done and it's not even lunch time!
That story gets wide distribution and Mexico may well pay for a wall to stem the rush of Americans seeking healthcare!
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