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Old 06-02-2018, 07:13 AM
 
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How do you know that the 24,000 are redundant or unnecessary? And it is quite flippant to say " if they are good competent workers they will find jobs in private industry". Skilled workers in their 50;s that are let go often have a lot of trouble latching on to a similar job.
Because right-wingers ignorant enough to think nearly ALL government jobs are "redundant or unnecessary." They live in some fantasy world where the government is "bad" and we don't need it, but none of them are willing to step up and move to some lawless, failed state without a government. Instead, like cowards, they want all the protections of a strong government: military, clean air and water, safe food and drugs, infrastructure, and so on - but they don't want to pay for it.

Right wingers are like the guy who always sponges off his friends when they order pizza or eat out, and then has the nerve to complain about the food.
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Old 06-02-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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It's funny. Some people hate government workers because they view them as overpaid union workers, yet these same people cheer on steel imports to save unionized steel work jobs.
Don't forget coal! We've got righties all over that thread praising Trump using tax payer money to provide corporate welfare for coal miners, and the same clods are over here, demanding us to get rid of as many government workers as possible.

It is ignorant, hypocritical, and mean-spirited - classic right-wing politics.
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Old 06-02-2018, 07:18 AM
 
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No mistaking the feather bedding, loving government retirees, workers - posting away on social media during work hours - or their dependents. None, at all.
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Old 06-02-2018, 07:22 AM
 
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The fed gov doesn't just "let anybody go" and anyone who thinks this is severely misinformed. No one has "lost" their federal job. It has never worked that way and still doesn't under Trump.
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Old 06-02-2018, 07:25 AM
 
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No mistaking the feather bedding, loving government retirees, workers - posting away on social media during work hours - or their dependents. None, at all.
Because that doesn't happen in private industry?

Hell, your worthless Commander in Thief spends most of his time posting idiocy on Twitter - can we please fire him, too?

The right-wing ignorance and double-standards on this forum are downright laughable.
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Old 06-02-2018, 07:26 AM
 
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The fed gov doesn't just "let anybody go" and anyone who thinks this is severely misinformed. No one has "lost" their federal job. It has never worked that way and still doesn't under Trump.
So, you really think the government never lets anyone go and people who work there have a job for life?

Wow... just... wow...
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Old 06-02-2018, 07:27 AM
 
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Okay. Lets look at one agency. The EPA. Yes they have reduced head count. At the same time Pruitt has hired friends of his at large salaries who have no real qualification and helped him find an apartment. Meanwhile, I am sure some of the people gone were actually qualified and did meaningful work.

HUD has been similar under Carson. He has his wife and son involved in the operation.

Is this what the right is cheering?
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Old 06-02-2018, 07:28 AM
 
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The fed gov doesn't just "let anybody go" and anyone who thinks this is severely misinformed. No one has "lost" their federal job. It has never worked that way and still doesn't under Trump.
Actually they do. The new heads are basically make life difficult so people will leave. Look what Tillerson did in state. What Pruitt has done in the EPA. What Carson has done in HUD.
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Old 06-02-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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That is not how government jobs work, the economy works, or how job creation works.

Do you really think government jobs are "charity" and the people don't do real work? And do you really think jobs in the private sector will magically appear for these people who are out of work?

The right-wing ignorance of basic economic is profound; they shouldn't spout off on topics they so utterly fail to understand.
The fact remains that many government workers are incompetent, goofing off, or redundant, and we should not be "giving out jobs" to them in spite of that. If we do, then yes....for those people it is a form of charity to continue to oay them inflated wages for a job they are unable or unwilling to do.

And yes, in an economy with a full-employment rate, they should be able to find jobs. If it takes a few months, well....welcome to the real world. Private sector workers get laid off and spend months looking for jobs ALL THE TIME. Why should government workers, ESPECIALLY incompetent ones who goof off half the day, get special protections?

The left-wing simplicity of just "providing" wherever it is is deemed needed, regardless of cost, and regardless of whether it is deserved or not, is mind-boggling. Government employees who replicate each other's work, or simply cannot do their jobs due to incompetence, are not "entitled" to a government job.

There is no free lunch.
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Old 06-02-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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No mistaking the feather bedding, loving government retirees, workers - posting away on social media during work hours - or their dependents. None, at all.
Yes, this too! I get so mad when they're at the pool all day, hogging the shade (!!), and then they tell me it's one of their three telework days.

If people throughout the country could see what's really going on with "work-from-home" government workers, even more heads would roll.
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