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Old 06-08-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: 89434
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Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady View Post
I live in Kentucky, which as you know is a very Red State.
We have had droughts too, here in our city of Lexington...several over the last few decades.

When they did, and it got really bad....they had a rationing of water here also.


When resources are limited, there is really nothing left to do.
It really has nothing to do with being a blue state or a red state.
Only difference is that California is not doing a very good job of getting water
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:47 AM
 
Location: 89434
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I have a home in FL and during dry spells they limit the use of water. FL is a red state.
They can just tap into the Gulf of Mexico or the Atlantic Ocean if they need water. After all, it would help prevent the sea levels rising, and flooding the state.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Frankly I would ignore the laws unless the water shuts itself off. Why not just raise the rates until supply and demand meet? The information I read suggests urban use is only 10-15% of total use with the vast majority going to agriculture and environment. I never water my lawn though so it's not like I use a lot. Lawn watering is the biggest waste of water on the planet (including golf courses).. still, a person should be able to use as much water as they're willing to pay for.. that's the free market at work. Don't like it, charge more for water.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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it has been on the cards for decades.

Until CA figures out how to force CA farmers to share water and to use their resources in a reasonable manner they will have massive problems.

Or they could buy water from BC, WA and OR.... we got more than enough between us...
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:17 PM
 
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Let us like at this from a different perspective. California has close to 40 million people. California has more people than Canada. California has an average annual rainfall of 21 inches. A majority of California's population lives in places where the average rainfall varies from 10 to 15 inches. While the Bay Area does get more rainfall and is a highly populated area, more people live in Southern California than any other part of California. Ironically, the rainiest parts of California are among the more sparsely populated. In short, California's water issues have alot to do with population distribution and climate.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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Of course that water is potable. One big source is the Colorado river which provides drinking water to numerous populations. Water out of the delta is also potable.

If the immigrants, legal and illegal, were removed they would simply be replaced by migration from inside the US. Might help reduce the impoverished population of Appalachia but would do nothing for California.

And the new arrivals would be even more expensive.
Irrigation water is not potable, it hasn't been treated.

Just because the Colorado river is ALSO the source of water that is used for drinking water does not mean that the river water is potable without treatment.

Your claims just continue to be more ridiculous. Population growth due to migration to CA from US citizens has never been of the magnitude of what we have seen from the immigration of the foreign born.

Of the 100M in population increase since 1970, about 70M of it is due to immigration.

The overpopulation crisis in the US is caused by immigration, not organic growth.

With regards to water scarcity, it is caused entirely by population growth. We have plenty of water for the population of 1970, 1980, even probably 1990. We just don't have enough water for the population of today, and that is an artifact nearly entirely of immigration.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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All of California is not a desert, who keeps telling you guys this nonsense and why do you believe it?
You are correct! But, the video was referencing most of southern CA. There are three deserts in California to be exact. The largest swath is in the lower half. There isn't a lot of water that falls naturally in SCA. A lot of Californias water is borrowed or as some people think, swindled from other areas.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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Kick out the estimated two million illegals living in California, then they will have more water for those legally living there.
3M now.

We should call them drybacks, because they are sucking us dry.
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Old 06-08-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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Let us like at this from a different perspective. California has close to 40 million people. California has more people than Canada. California has an average annual rainfall of 21 inches. A majority of California's population lives in places where the average rainfall varies from 10 to 15 inches. While the Bay Area does get more rainfall and is a highly populated area, more people live in Southern California than any other part of California. Ironically, the rainiest parts of California are among the more sparsely populated. In short, California's water issues have alot to do with population distribution and climate.
Very true! SoCal get's 75% of its water from the top third of its state. 80% of its users live in the bottom two-thirds of the state.
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Old 06-08-2018, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Irrigation water is not potable, it hasn't been treated.

Just because the Colorado river is ALSO the source of water that is used for drinking water does not mean that the river water is potable without treatment.

Your claims just continue to be more ridiculous. Population growth due to migration to CA from US citizens has never been of the magnitude of what we have seen from the immigration of the foreign born.

Of the 100M in population increase since 1970, about 70M of it is due to immigration.

The overpopulation crisis in the US is caused by immigration, not organic growth.

With regards to water scarcity, it is caused entirely by population growth. We have plenty of water for the population of 1970, 1980, even probably 1990. We just don't have enough water for the population of today, and that is an artifact nearly entirely of immigration.
Of course it is potable. You simply run it into the same water treatment plant you use for domestic water. And the Colorado is quite drinkable without any treatment having drunk more than a few gallons of it.

From 1950 to 2015 CA grew from 10 million to 40 million. 11 million are foreign born so 19 million are US migrants or CA born. Filling in for a deported 4 million illegals would follow in due course over the decade or more such a deportation would take.
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