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Old 06-02-2018, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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https://nurse.org/articles/highest-p...in-california/

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes291141.htm

Wonder how universal health care is going to work for them with nurses showing off $155 an hour pay-stubs.

I just looked and by contrast nurses pay in South Dakota and Mississippi is a very fair and reasonable $27 an hour which seems like a good, strong fair wage.

If they are paying many times the wage in California that they are in South Dakota and Mississippi then they will either have to increase the insurance premiums and make it even more uncompetitive of a state when it comes to business friendliness or they will make do a much lower nurse to patient ratio.

Seems like family health insurance premiums, co-pay's and deductibles will have to skyrocket to pay for these outlandish nurses wages in California which are several times the fair wages that middle-American nurses are paid.
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Old 06-02-2018, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Did you read the text in the link you provided?

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She worked 8 sixteen hour shifts in two weeks time frame, making OVER a $100 an hour. This is HOW.........In the Bay Area, anything over 12 hours in EACH shift is DOUBLE pay and she did 16 hours each of the 8 shifts, within the 2 week time frame, so, at most, 4 shifts a week.
If there's a shortage of nurses and she's working double shifts and being paid overtime to do so, that's hardly something you can compare to the regular wages being paid in other places.

And the Bay area can hardly be compared to South Dakota or Mississippi anyway.

You're comparing apples with oranges....again.
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Old 06-02-2018, 08:33 PM
 
Location: USA
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Hahahahaha!

So, we've got righties posting here about how apartments are sooo expensive on the "evil left coast," and now they are whining that the paychecks are "too high" in the same places. What, do they WANT poverty or something?

Unreal... a total and complete lack of understanding of the basic laws of supply and demand on the far-right. So typical.

You know what else is cheap? Rents and health-care in 3rd world nations. I guess we should all trumpet how great that is and pretend that anyone being paid more is "unreasonable" and higher rents are "artificially inflated."
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:01 PM
 
Location: FL
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Did you read the text in the link you provided?

If there's a shortage of nurses and she's working double shifts and being paid overtime to do so, that's hardly something you can compare to the regular wages being paid in other places.

And the Bay area can hardly be compared to South Dakota or Mississippi anyway.

You're comparing apples with oranges....again.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:13 PM
 
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This was a silly thread as presented. However, I enjoyed the first article and found it interesting. If I were a nurse and a bit younger I would travel regularly to the Bay Area to pick up per diem work.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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https://nurse.org/articles/highest-p...in-california/

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes291141.htm

Wonder how universal health care is going to work for them with nurses showing off $155 an hour pay-stubs.

I just looked and by contrast nurses pay in South Dakota and Mississippi is a very fair and reasonable $27 an hour which seems like a good, strong fair wage.

If they are paying many times the wage in California that they are in South Dakota and Mississippi then they will either have to increase the insurance premiums and make it even more uncompetitive of a state when it comes to business friendliness or they will make do a much lower nurse to patient ratio.

Seems like family health insurance premiums, co-pay's and deductibles will have to skyrocket to pay for these outlandish nurses wages in California which are several times the fair wages that middle-American nurses are paid.



What is the point of all these endless threads you post, that always end up being debunked ? If you simply did the math and read these articles completely, rather than jumping to conclusions, you would save yourself a lot of time and embarrassment.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Hahahahaha!

So, we've got righties posting here about how apartments are sooo expensive on the "evil left coast," and now they are whining that the paychecks are "too high" in the same places. What, do they WANT poverty or something?

Unreal... a total and complete lack of understanding of the basic laws of supply and demand on the far-right. So typical.

You know what else is cheap? Rents and health-care in 3rd world nations. I guess we should all trumpet how great that is and pretend that anyone being paid more is "unreasonable" and higher rents are "artificially inflated."
https://www.kff.org/health-costs/sta...:%22desc%22%7D

The outlandish nurses wages are why health care is so much higher in California than South Dakota.

Will be interesting to see what universal health care scheme they come up with California. Hopefully, any universal health care scheme California comes up with does not involve middle-Americans funding the experiment.

It would be nice though if the federal government eliminated Medicaid funding for states like California that are providing coverage to illegal aliens and they redistributed that money to states like South Dakota and Mississippi with higher Medicaid reimbursement rates.

One can only imagine the number of Republican votes that would swing Independents if California did not get Medicaid money from the federal government and that money went to states like South Dakota and Mississippi so those states would not have spend so much.

South Dakota for instance has to pay $1 to get $1.30 in federal Medicaid funds and Mississippi has to pay $1 to get $3.24 in federal Medicaid money.

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/state-i...:%22desc%22%7D

The excessive nurses wages in this case more the nurse makes 5 times what the median nurse wage in South Dakota is why South Dakota has no income tax and California has 10.3% income tax on the $55,000th of income to try to pay for the outlandish strain these California union nurses wages are impacting on the system.

Hospital costs per inpatient day: $3,300 in California compared to $1,200 in South Dakota in 2015.

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Old 06-02-2018, 09:36 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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The numbers dont add up. She lied about something in her social media post. It was for more than just two weeks.

In order to make $20K after taxes as the article states, she would have had to make about $30K gross. 8 shifts at 16 hours per shift is 128 hours.

$30k divided by 128 is $234 per hour for every hour she worked. Impossible at the rates stated by the article.

The article also says she would earn up to $2200 per 16 hour shift. 8 times $2200 equals only $17,000 BEFORE taxes, so probably more like $12K after taxes.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:42 PM
 
Location: in a pond with the other human scum
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https://www.kff.org/health-costs/sta...:%22desc%22%7D

The outlandish nurses wages are why health care is so much higher in California than South Dakota.

Will be interesting to see what universal health care scheme they come up with California.

I am all for universal health care with a big federal block grant in a state like North Dakota or South Dakota but it will never work in a big state like California with millions of illegals and nurses gaming the system making $155 an hour sometimes as opposed to around $27 an hour on average in South Dakota.

The excessive nurses wages in this case more the nurse makes 5 times what the median nurse wage in South Dakota is why South Dakota has no income tax and California has 10.3% income tax on the $55,000th of income to try to pay for the outlandish strain these California union nurses wages are impacting on the system.

Hospital costs per inpatient day: $3,300 in California compared to $1,200 in South Dakota in 2015.
Furthermore, outlandish nurse wages made Roseanne Barr take too much Ambien and go all bat guano a few days ago. They also caused Amelia Earhart's disappearance.

Glad we got those cleared up.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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Who is paying the bill? If it is private sector, then who cares?
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