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Old 06-06-2018, 05:57 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by PilgrimsProgress View Post
Populist movement is spreading! People taking their countries back.
I knew your post sounded vaguely familiar to me ...

Matthew 24:7, “ethnic group against ethnic group”

I don't know about Italy, but 18% of those that migrate to the U.S. return home within 5 years.

I also find it interesting what seems to be most important stats to keep on migration, are those coming into a country, rather than those who are leaving it, which also includes, native born population's exodus.

It's like they don't want people to know, because others may get the bright idea, to follow.
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Old 06-06-2018, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I knew your post sounded vaguely familiar to me ...

Matthew 24:7, “ethnic group against ethnic group”

I don't know about Italy, but 18% of those that migrate to the U.S. return home within 5 years.

I also find it interesting what seems to be most important stats to keep on migration, are those coming into a country, rather than those who are leaving it, which also includes, native born population's exodus.

It's like they don't want people to know, because others may get the bright idea, to follow.

A lot of Jewish citizens have left their homeland in France because of the anti-semitism from refugees. Not a secret but it doesn't get a whole lot of press either, I don't think.
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Old 06-06-2018, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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No!

Just like all Europeans weren't slave traders or even remotely associated with slavery, many Arabs, Africans, and Moslems, weren't involved in European slavery.
Then for crapsakes stop dragging the distant past into it. Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Saharan Slavery have nothing to do with today. No living human being participated. It's generations in the past. So leave that out of the conversation entirely.

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Most of these immigrants are simply refugees seeking basic human relief from the tyranny waged against them in their own countries of origin. Most would be more than happy to return to their homelands, provided that peace could be restored and escalating corruption could be uprooted.

Why not establish a temporary sanctuary for these immigrants throughout Europe in various designated rural areas?

Establish educational programs that will be useful when they return to their homelands within the next several years.

Meanwhile, NATO and the UN can devise a method to utilize Russia and the US in the stabilization of Libya, Afganistan, Syria, and east Africa.

The immigrants can be taught agriculture, aquaculture, civil engineering, urban planning, medicinal techniques, etc.. over a five-year period. Most can then be repatriated.

Don't just kick these people out! Sure the ones causing problems must absolutely go! However, most of these immigrants aren't trouble-makers or rabble-roussers. Many are women with children who simply seek refuge from violence.
Covered all of this already, but we'll go through it again.
  • They were lousy house guests. They came into another person's house, acted like they owned the place and abused their host.
  • If somebody invites in to take shelter from a horrible rainstorm, it is absolutely terrible manners to knock them unconscious and rape their daughter.
  • If you can't be courteous towards those trying to help you, then don't be too surprised when they choose to stop helping you.
  • Continuing the house metaphor, when there are six of you, but only one of you is beating the men unconscious and raping all the women, it doesn't much matter. All six of you get kicked out because the residents of that house unsurprisingly don't trust you anymore.
  • It's their house. They don't have to let you stay there.
  • The vast majority are not actually fleeing wars.
  • The vast majority aren't fleeing tyrannical governments that are trying to kill them.
  • They are economic migrants and they pay people to smuggle them into Europe.
  • Those that can't pay their smugglers are being sold into slavery as we speak. (Thanks for destabilizing Libya Mr Obama!)
  • They came to Europe in pursuit of free housing, free food and free stuff.
  • A tiny fraction actually came for jobs, but they have no skills.
  • Those that are productive members of society will probably be allowed to stay.
  • These migrants are the Africans with drive and ambition. They had so much of it, they managed to make the journey to Europe.
  • Their home countries need their can-do attitude a lot more than Europe does.
  • As long as all of the competent and intelligent Africans leave their home countries, their home countries will continue to be crap-hole countries. (If Trump actually ever said that, he wasn't wrong.)
  • Again, they were lousy house guests. The worst! So they're getting kicked out. What's wrong with that?
  • The government let these migrants get away with terrible things. They ignored rape, assault and sometimes even murder. They just got voted out for it. After so much abuse at migrant hands, what sort of people do you suppose just got voted in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FNXXCRvAQ0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fglyOT66ilw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm5SYxRXHsI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPuMs3E_k0
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Old 06-06-2018, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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And, as usual, the same people as always think that showing compassion for foreigners is a loftier goal than showing compassion for the citizens of those countries who have had their lives turned upside because of the refugees.

There's something seriously wrong with their thought process.
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Old 06-06-2018, 06:43 PM
 
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And, as usual, the same people as always think that showing compassion for foreigners is a loftier goal than showing compassion for the citizens of those countries who have had their lives turned upside because of the refugees.

There's something seriously wrong with their thought process.
Nah, the least productive and laziest people have a problem with immigrants and refugees. Everyone else can comprehend the situation.
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Old 06-06-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Nah, the least productive and laziest people have a problem with immigrants and refugees. Everyone else can comprehend the situation.

Another well read perspective.

Educate yourself so you at least sound like you know what you're talking about.
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Old 06-06-2018, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Nah, the least productive and laziest people have a problem with immigrants and refugees. Everyone else can comprehend the situation.
The people having a problem with Muslim migrants are the people who have been beaten, raped and abused by them. How many rape gangs is an acceptable number of rape gangs? How many thousands of white European pre-teen girls getting raped every day for years is an acceptable number? What is an acceptable number of assaults? Murders? How many Muslim no-go Sharia zones and ghettos is an acceptable number? How many trucks of peace is an acceptable number? How many trains, buses, etc. being blown up is an acceptable number?
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Old 06-06-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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We can throw rocks at each other all day. Truth is, humans in general are total d's..
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Old 06-06-2018, 07:58 PM
 
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[quote=victimofGM;52092230]Islam is not a racist misogyny and stupidity!! More like a Quasi Political doctrine of extreme violence and hatred for inbred, illiterates from the Middle East !!!
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Old 06-06-2018, 08:05 PM
 
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Then for crapsakes stop dragging the distant past into it. Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Saharan Slavery have nothing to do with today. No living human being participated. It's generations in the past. So leave that out of the conversation entirely.

Covered all of this already, but we'll go through it again.
  • They were lousy house guests. They came into another person's house, acted like they owned the place and abused their host.
  • If somebody invites in to take shelter from a horrible rainstorm, it is absolutely terrible manners to knock them unconscious and rape their daughter.
  • If you can't be courteous towards those trying to help you, then don't be too surprised when they choose to stop helping you.
  • Continuing the house metaphor, when there are six of you, but only one of you is beating the men unconscious and raping all the women, it doesn't much matter. All six of you get kicked out because the residents of that house unsurprisingly don't trust you anymore.
  • It's their house. They don't have to let you stay there.
  • The vast majority are not actually fleeing wars.
  • The vast majority aren't fleeing tyrannical governments that are trying to kill them.
  • They are economic migrants and they pay people to smuggle them into Europe.
  • Those that can't pay their smugglers are being sold into slavery as we speak. (Thanks for destabilizing Libya Mr Obama!)
  • They came to Europe in pursuit of free housing, free food and free stuff.
  • A tiny fraction actually came for jobs, but they have no skills.
  • Those that are productive members of society will probably be allowed to stay.
  • These migrants are the Africans with drive and ambition. They had so much of it, they managed to make the journey to Europe.
  • Their home countries need their can-do attitude a lot more than Europe does.
  • As long as all of the competent and intelligent Africans leave their home countries, their home countries will continue to be crap-hole countries. (If Trump actually ever said that, he wasn't wrong.)
  • Again, they were lousy house guests. The worst! So they're getting kicked out. What's wrong with that?
  • The government let these migrants get away with terrible things. They ignored rape, assault and sometimes even murder. They just got voted out for it. After so much abuse at migrant hands, what sort of people do you suppose just got voted in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FNXXCRvAQ0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fglyOT66ilw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm5SYxRXHsI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPuMs3E_k0
Many immigrants are from subsaharan Africa. Quite a few Europeans have a problem with blacks in general. That especially goes for Italians!

IMO

While Islam clashes with Christianity and stirs much animosity, racial attitudes continue to polarize Europeans. Most resentment for immigrants stems from racism.
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