Why are most school shootings in outer suburbs and small towns -not in big cities? (drug, weapons)

[TamaraSavannah]

I love how the OP starts off with holding the school shootings to elementary and high school......yet it looks like the list has at least 8 colleges listed.

[Tom Lennox 70]

Many of these places are part of very large metro areas so its misleading. Parkland is part of the massive South Florida megalopolis and is a very liberal area populated mostly by northern transplants and immigrants.

[Loveshiscountry]

Most shootings occur because of 1 parent families.

[Floorist]

Originally Posted by natalie469

My community has no metal detectors in schools. I would think it would be frightening to elementary students.

So them being afraid is worse than safety? hmmmm

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by katzpaw

Most of the school shootings (elementary and high school) are in smaller towns and not in bigger and supposedly more violent cities

"Of the 10 deadliest school shootings in the U.S., all but one took place in a town with fewer than 75,000 residents and the vast majority of them were in cities with fewer than 50,000 people."

"Experts say the phenomenon is due to a variety of factors that include easy access to guns and the copycat effect of disturbed suburban and small-town teenagers emulating each other. It's also blamed on the pressures of living in small towns that make it harder for disgruntled teenagers to adjust.

"In small-town America, it's said everybody knows everybody, and that's well and good except when you don't want everybody to know what's going on with you," said James Alan Fox, a professor at Northeastern University who has been studying mass shootings for decades. "If things are going downhill for you, you did something wrong or someone did something wrong to you and some girl dumps you, everybody knows. So it's much harder to get away from it."

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2018/ma...g-in-small-to/

List of school shootings since 2000, ordered by # of casualties:
56 - Blacksburg, Virginia - Virginia Tech
34 - Parkland, Florida - Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
30 - Newtown, Connecticut - Sandy Hook Elementary School
27 - DeKalb, Illinois - Northern Illinois University
24 - Rancho Tehama Reserve, California - Rancho Tehama Reserve
20 - Santa Fe, Texas - Sate Fe High School
20 - Marshall County, Kentucky - Marshall County High School
19 - Roseburg, Oregon - Umpqua Community College
17 - Red Lake, Minnesota - Red Lake Senior High School
15 - Santee, California - Santana High School
10 - Santa Monica, California - Santa Monica College
10 - Oakland, California - Oikos University
9 - Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania - Oikos University
7 - Flint, Michigan - Southwestern Classical Academy
6 - Grundy, Virginia - Appalachian School of Law
6 - Huntsville, Alabama - University of Alabama in Huntsville
6 - Marysville, Washington - Marysville Pilchuck High School
6 - Houston, Texas - Worthing High School
6 - Chardon, Ohio - Chardon High School
5 - Cleveland, Ohio - SuccessTech Academy
... plus 200 more at Wikipedia link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...015_to_present

easy: the inner city kids are to busy killing each other and robbing liquor stores.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by shadowne

Of the top 20 highest casualties school shootings, 15 happened in BLUE states (4 were in your state), 4 in RED states and 1 in a PURPLE state.

That argument doesnt make sense.

Even if you call Virginia a blue state, there are 8 other purple or red states on that list.


None of which matters. There are towns in Texas that are deeply progressive/liberal, and places in California that are deeply conservative.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by natalie469

My community has no metal detectors in schools. I would think it would be frightening to elementary students.

Why? They have them at any game. They have them at airports, county fairs. You'd have to pretty much be a hermit not to see one.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Why? They have them at any game. They have them at airports, county fairs. You'd have to pretty much be a hermit not to see one.

metal detectors are not as common as you would like to believe.

Also, I have never been to a county fair with a metal detector, or a standard entrance for that matter .

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by shadowne

Three out of the top five highest casualties school shootings from the above list happened in states with the strictest gun laws. Seven of the top fifteen, again, happened in states with the strictest gun laws.

You can steer your result by picking the window, that list goes back 20 years. More recently the shootings are in states with weak gun laws other than Sandy Hook. Rancho Tehama had one victim killed at a school so although it fits the definition. Beyond schools there are many mass shootings in states with weak gun laws but that's off topic.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by katzpaw

Most of the school shootings (elementary and high school) are in smaller towns and not in bigger and supposedly more violent cities

"Of the 10 deadliest school shootings in the U.S., all but one took place in a town with fewer than 75,000 residents and the vast majority of them were in cities with fewer than 50,000 people."

"Experts say the phenomenon is due to a variety of factors that include easy access to guns and the copycat effect of disturbed suburban and small-town teenagers emulating each other. It's also blamed on the pressures of living in small towns that make it harder for disgruntled teenagers to adjust.

"In small-town America, it's said everybody knows everybody, and that's well and good except when you don't want everybody to know what's going on with you," said James Alan Fox, a professor at Northeastern University who has been studying mass shootings for decades. "If things are going downhill for you, you did something wrong or someone did something wrong to you and some girl dumps you, everybody knows. So it's much harder to get away from it."

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2018/ma...g-in-small-to/

List of school shootings since 2000, ordered by # of casualties:
56 - Blacksburg, Virginia - Virginia Tech
34 - Parkland, Florida - Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
30 - Newtown, Connecticut - Sandy Hook Elementary School
27 - DeKalb, Illinois - Northern Illinois University
24 - Rancho Tehama Reserve, California - Rancho Tehama Reserve
20 - Santa Fe, Texas - Sate Fe High School
20 - Marshall County, Kentucky - Marshall County High School
19 - Roseburg, Oregon - Umpqua Community College
17 - Red Lake, Minnesota - Red Lake Senior High School
15 - Santee, California - Santana High School
10 - Santa Monica, California - Santa Monica College
10 - Oakland, California - Oikos University
9 - Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania - Oikos University
7 - Flint, Michigan - Southwestern Classical Academy
6 - Grundy, Virginia - Appalachian School of Law
6 - Huntsville, Alabama - University of Alabama in Huntsville
6 - Marysville, Washington - Marysville Pilchuck High School
6 - Houston, Texas - Worthing High School
6 - Chardon, Ohio - Chardon High School
5 - Cleveland, Ohio - SuccessTech Academy
... plus 200 more at Wikipedia link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...015_to_present

""Experts say", you lost me right there!

"Most of the school shootings (elementary and high school)"

Then WHY did you list so many NON elementary and high schools?

Make up your mind what you want to discuss, then get back to us.

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