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The various investigations of Hillary Clinton were handled with kid gloves and with a deference that has profoundly undermined the fundamental assumption of our system of justice, that we are a nation of laws and that nobody is above the law. Her testimony was voluntary and not under oath.
Her co-conspirators were given immunity and allowed to sit in on her voluntary testimony. And then they were all given the most generous possible handling of every aspect of this investigation, including allowing them to destroy evidence and to lie to the FBI and Congress, with no attempt to hold them accountable, to this very day
On the other hand, Donald Trump has been the target of a special investigation with NO actual specified crime or charges to investigate. The attitude and tone of that investigation has been one of aggressive hostility, with a unrelenting presumption of guilt, even though there is to this day no specified crime that is directly associated with the original mandate of the investigation. It has been a scorched Earth style investigation.
Those being targeted - apparently because they are trying to pressure them to implicate Trump - have been subject to midnight raids, and forced testimony under oath. ALL of the charges up to this point have been for process crimes or activities totally unrelated to the election or Donald Trump, except for the indictments of 13 Russians for posts made on Facebook, which it appears now were just a scam by Mueller which he is not actually prepared to prosecute.
Kid-gloves vs Scorched-Earth. That is the double standard that the DOJ and FBI has brazenly deployed in these two investigations. Only someone who is truly unfamiliar with these matters, or who is a deeply dishonest and untrustworthy person will try to make the case otherwise.
We cannot allow this to continue. There must be one standard of justice for everyone in this country, regardless of a person's politics, skin color, religion or gender.
The media even mocked themselves over the treatment of Obama during the debates when he was tossed softball questions.
Hillary did field some tough questions, but when she lied it was ignored.
All this fighting is not new. Adams and Jefferson hated each other with a purple passion. Washington, Lincoln, Andrew Jackson - they all had their turn in the barrel. And say what you wish about Bill Clinton - that guy can take the heat!
Trump will be OK. He knows full well that the loudmouth rhetoric is coming from people who were never going to vote for him anyway, so they don't count.
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I see no change forthcoming.
The media even mocked themselves over the treatment of Obama during the debates when he was tossed softball questions.
Hillary did field some tough questions, but when she lied it was ignored.
All this fighting is not new. Adams and Jefferson hated each other with a purple passion. Washington, Lincoln, Andrew Jackson - they all had their turn in the barrel. And say what you wish about Bill Clinton - that guy can take the heat!
Trump will be OK. He knows full well that the loudmouth rhetoric is coming from people who were never going to vote for him anyway, so they don't count.
Oh please, the vast majority of loud-mouthed rhetoric comes from no one but Trump himself.
There is no doubt about it, the two investigations couldn't have been handled more differently, that is an undeniable fact.
Page/Strozk text messages clearly show they were rushing to clear Hillary, and drop the case, while they applied the full force of the government surveillance apparatus against the Trump campaign, and they continue their investigation to this day.
There is no doubt about it, the two investigations couldn't have been handled more differently, that is an undeniable fact.
Page/Strozk text messages clearly show they were rushing to clear Hillary, and drop the case, while they applied the full force of the government surveillance apparatus against the Trump campaign, and they continue their investigation to this day.
For all his assiduous attention to detail, IG Horowitz has weaved a no-common-sense report.
On August 8, 2016, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, borderline hysterical, texts her lover, agent Peter Strzok, about GOP candidate Donald Trump: “He’s not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”
Strzok replies, “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it.”
Now mind you, Page isn’t just any old lawyer; she is counsel to the FBI’s deputy director (Andrew McCabe) and involved in virtually every significant decision the bureau makes. And Strzok is not any old agent; he is deputy assistant director and one of the FBI’s top counterespionage agents — and he steered both relevant investigations, Clinton-emails and Trump-Russia.
This August 8 text exchange does not occur in a vacuum. It is part of ceaseless stream of anti-Trump bile. It is, moreover, just a week before the infamous text in which we learn that top-level bureau officials met in the deputy director’s office to discuss what they saw as the harrowing possibility of a Trump presidency; Strzok urged that, though highly unlikely, this prospect was so intolerable that the bureau needed an “insurance policy” against it — i.e., the Russia investigation.
The August 8 text also occurs against a backdrop in which the FBI has rushed to close the Clinton-emails investigation on an arbitrary deadline for patently political reasons — no other criminal investigation is guided by the electoral calendar. And it occurs at the moment the FBI is moving aggressively to turn its counterintelligence powers against the Trump campaign: An informant has already been deployed, intelligence agents are mobilizing, foreign intelligence contacts have been tapped, and the bureau will soon submit to the FISA court an application to surveil Trump adviser Carter Page — an application that breaks every rule in the book: anonymous foreign sources spouting multiple hearsay, no corroboration, no disclosure to the court that it comes from the opposition presidential campaign, no explanation that the foreigner who supplied the unverified allegations has been booted from the investigation for lying, etc.
We are supposed to dump our "common sense" and believe that all of this is just Co-Inky-Dence.
I still maintain that there are at least 3 versions of the OIG Report - the original un-redacted report that went to DOJ & FBI & those interviewed for their response - the Report that came back with everything they marked that they wanted removed AND the final report with all the weasel words the public got to see. It's also pretty clear that the preamble and the conclusion were written based on the "report they allowed the public to see" as the Interior of the 568 page report is FULL of items that show the Preamble and Conclusion have very little in common with the bulk of the report.
They dumped the common sense and expect us to do the same. The entire thing is an exercise in "we must SAVE the credibility of the FBI and the DOJ".
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Kid Gloves ~vs~ Scorched Earth & no common sense
