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Old 06-25-2018, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Houston
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After the Kennedy assassination Dallas was unfairly labeled "The City of Hate."

Is anyone on this forum old enough to remember if the political rhetoric back then was as bad as it is now?

I am truly stunned and saddened by what is happening in our country. Some people think it is ok to ask others to leave a restaurant based on their political beliefs. This is acceptable in America in 2018!

My question is which city is the new "City of Hate?" New York City led by the NY Times? Washington D.C. led by the Washington Post? These newspapers seem to provide the forum for hate against conservatives - especially Donald Trump.

It is very sad.

 
Old 06-25-2018, 09:53 PM
 
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Kennedy was assassinated by a fanatical communist and he could have done that in any city. As much as the left would like to pretend that a Democrat was killed by conservatives in a southern city, that wasn't what happened.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by SanJac View Post
After the Kennedy assassination Dallas was unfairly labeled "The City of Hate."

Is anyone on this forum old enough to remember if the political rhetoric back then was as bad as it is now?

I am truly stunned and saddened by what is happening in our country. Some people think it is ok to ask others to leave a restaurant based on their political beliefs. This is acceptable in America in 2018!

My question is which city is the new "City of Hate?" New York City led by the NY Times? Washington D.C. led by the Washington Post? These newspapers seem to provide the forum for hate against conservatives - especially Donald Trump.

It is very sad.

If you are referring to Sarah "Hucksterbee" Sanders...she was not asked to leave due to her political beliefs. She was asked to leave because she is a damn liar and a shill for the lying Don the Con-man.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 10:04 PM
 
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After the Kennedy assassination Dallas was unfairly labeled "The City of Hate."

Is anyone on this forum old enough to remember if the political rhetoric back then was as bad as it is now?

I am truly stunned and saddened by what is happening in our country. Some people think it is ok to ask others to leave a restaurant based on their political beliefs. This is acceptable in America in 2018!

My question is which city is the new "City of Hate?" New York City led by the NY Times? Washington D.C. led by the Washington Post? These newspapers seem to provide the forum for hate against conservatives - especially Donald Trump.

It is very sad.
DC because of Trump. Make America Hate Again.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Originally Posted by SanJac View Post
After the Kennedy assassination Dallas was unfairly labeled "The City of Hate."

Is anyone on this forum old enough to remember if the political rhetoric back then was as bad as it is now?

I am truly stunned and saddened by what is happening in our country. Some people think it is ok to ask others to leave a restaurant based on their political beliefs. This is acceptable in America in 2018!

My question is which city is the new "City of Hate?" New York City led by the NY Times? Washington D.C. led by the Washington Post? These newspapers seem to provide the forum for hate against conservatives - especially Donald Trump.

It is very sad.
San Francisco has to be in the running, a place where it can be tough to distinguish college professors from Antifa street thugs.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 10:11 PM
 
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After the Kennedy assassination Dallas was unfairly labeled "The City of Hate."

Is anyone on this forum old enough to remember if the political rhetoric back then was as bad as it is now?

I am truly stunned and saddened by what is happening in our country. Some people think it is ok to ask others to leave a restaurant based on their political beliefs. This is acceptable in America in 2018!

My question is which city is the new "City of Hate?" New York City led by the NY Times? Washington D.C. led by the Washington Post? These newspapers seem to provide the forum for hate against conservatives - especially Donald Trump.

It is very sad.
Are you not stunned by other things going on in this country such as kids being separated from their mothers? Are you not stunned about it costing $700 a day each to house these people in tent cities while private contractors are getting rich?

Honestly I didn't see this thread heading in this direction when I started to read it, you actually surprised me.

How can you be more concerned with a fat rich lady eating dinner than a kid being ripped from it's mother's arms? Which do you think Jesus and baby Jesus cares more about?
 
Old 06-25-2018, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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After the Kennedy assassination Dallas was unfairly labeled "The City of Hate."

Is anyone on this forum old enough to remember if the political rhetoric back then was as bad as it is now?

I am truly stunned and saddened by what is happening in our country. Some people think it is ok to ask others to leave a restaurant based on their political beliefs. This is acceptable in America in 2018!

My question is which city is the new "City of Hate?" New York City led by the NY Times? Washington D.C. led by the Washington Post? These newspapers seem to provide the forum for hate against conservatives - especially Donald Trump.

It is very sad.
Yes, DC, NYC, SF, LA are full of hatred these days...I avoid them.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 10:53 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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After the Kennedy assassination Dallas was unfairly labeled "The City of Hate."

Is anyone on this forum old enough to remember if the political rhetoric back then was as bad as it is now?

There was a great deal of hatred focused on JFK in parts of the country back in 1963 but it wasn't widely known or communicated beyond certain areas. Texas seemed to harbor a good deal of opposition and even hatred but the level wasn't really revealed until after the assassination. The Secret Service was worried about his trip to Dallas. I can recall the intense anti-Catholic agitation leading up to the election. I had some distant cousins who were Baptist missionaries in South America (saving Catholics from the Pope) and they were called home to campaign and lecture against JFK well before he won the nomination. We had to put them up for a few days and they never shut up about it. We had very politically charged mock elections in school. There were fewer ways to get into debates and call people names...no internet and no rabid talk radio to speak of. It was mostly editorials and political columns in the newspapers or letter to the editor. The TV candidate debates originated with the Kennedy/Nixon race. Today, if we just eliminated the internet we would have only a small fraction of the discord -- no tweets, no Facebook, no C-D forums.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 11:06 PM
 
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There was a great deal of hatred focused on JFK in parts of the country back in 1963 but it wasn't widely known or communicated beyond certain areas. Texas seemed to harbor a good deal of opposition and even hatred but the level wasn't really revealed until after the assassination. The Secret Service was worried about his trip to Dallas. I can recall the intense anti-Catholic agitation leading up to the election. I had some distant cousins who were Baptist missionaries in South America (saving Catholics from the Pope) and they were called home to campaign and lecture against JFK well before he won the nomination. We had to put them up for a few days and they never shut up about it. We had very politically charged mock elections in school. There were fewer ways to get into debates and call people names...no internet and no rabid talk radio to speak of. It was mostly editorials and political columns in the newspapers or letter to the editor. The TV candidate debates originated with the Kennedy/Nixon race. Today, if we just eliminated the internet we would have only a small fraction of the discord -- no tweets, no Facebook, no C-D forums.
These days you have to think a lot of it really is Russians because the crap I see from both sides is so over the top it has to be satire. Not here, but a good example is on the comments platform on Politico where they use Facebook for commenting. It gets nasty there. It’s so bad I have to think a large portion of those accounts really are Russians trying to sow discord. Here it seems more genuine, though both sides have their over the top frequent contributors.

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Old 06-25-2018, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Originally Posted by SanJac View Post
After the Kennedy assassination Dallas was unfairly labeled "The City of Hate."

Is anyone on this forum old enough to remember if the political rhetoric back then was as bad as it is now?

I am truly stunned and saddened by what is happening in our country. Some people think it is ok to ask others to leave a restaurant based on their political beliefs. This is acceptable in America in 2018!

My question is which city is the new "City of Hate?" New York City led by the NY Times? Washington D.C. led by the Washington Post? These newspapers seem to provide the forum for hate against conservatives - especially Donald Trump.

It is very sad.
I was a freshman in college then.

Yup. Dallas was just what has been said about it back then.

That's why Kennedy's staff and advisors did their best to get him to cancel his visit there.

But the hate back then wasn't generated by a newspaper at all. It was homegrown from the ground up. The local papers ignored it. And none of Kennedy's staff was publicly shamed anywhere, by anyone.

You are scrambling a historical event into two different current things, while attempting to make the current unrest the fault of some newspapers. What's the point you are trying to present here?

There's no new "City of Hate". Conservatives in general aren't hated. There's no particular forum for hate against all conservatives I know of.

What there is are a lot of people who are very angry Trump and his administration seized little kids and separated them from their parents by force. A lot of people see that as something that is both inhuman and very un-American. So a few of those angry folks decided to hold those responsible for this outrage accountable for their actions in public.

Is their action hateful? Yes. But outraged people do hateful things, like shooting innocents. On the scale of things, I'm sure those two women, both mothers themselves, prefer the shaming they got to catching a bullet, which could have been equally possible.

I ask you- what is acceptable these days? Do you want to perpetuate the outrage that brought on the shaming, or do you want it to stop?
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