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If there is one thing that will quickly trigger a sizable chunk of Trump supporters it's gender nonconformity. Whether a person is gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender or if they simply don't conform to accepted gender norms, they are in the cross-hairs these days. Why is it that many Trump supporters are so preoccupied with other peoples' lives? If a person is gay or wants to transition or simply wants to live in a way that doesn't conform to gender stereotypes i.e. feminism, why shouldn't they be able to? If somebody wants to live and raise their family like the Cleavers more power to them, but why do people get so upset that others want to live in this century?
As someone that's in their 40's, I can't ever remember people in this country caring less abut the stuff you just described as right now.
Most republicans deep down are miserable people. It pains them greatly to see people living freely. They hate their own personal prison and lash out at others because of their confusion and discontent with themselves.
It's just too bad that science and medicine says the exact opposite is true.
Other than Obama and Clinton? Democrat politicians are as honest about how they feel about the SJW gay agenda as they are about not wanting to ban guns.
Why do liberals pretend that Gender Dysphoria isn't a mental illness that should be treated and instead go to surgical lengths to cater to the illness and accept the incredibly high suicide rate among them?
So if it’s a mental illness, like you say, what medication should be prescribed to make their brain think another way. We have millions suffering from depression where medication doesn’t work. So what are the stats on the suicide rate since you say they are incredibly high. Perhaps they commit suicide because they are bullied and not accepted. Ever think of that.
If there is one thing that will quickly trigger a sizable chunk of Trump supporters it's gender nonconformity. Whether a person is gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender or if they simply don't conform to accepted gender norms, they are in the cross-hairs these days. Why is it that many Trump supporters are so preoccupied with other peoples' lives? If a person is gay or wants to transition or simply wants to live in a way that doesn't conform to gender stereotypes i.e. feminism, why shouldn't they be able to? If somebody wants to live and raise their family like the Cleavers more power to them, but why do people get so upset that others want to live in this century?
Why do the personal habits of any individual that do not violate your natural rights bother people so much?
It's because collectivism runs deep in the hearts & minds of all Statists (Republicans, Democrats, Indeps, Others, Libs, Cons, etc).
Agreed. Do what makes you happy.
However, if that crosses over into forcing others to modify thier lives/ behavior /choices, to suit your personal fantasy, you are infringing upon others rights.
BOOM! THIS!
No one cares what you do until you start threatening us with the law if we use the improper gender pronouns etc...or FORCING us to not just accept your fantasy or even play along...no, now you insist we celebrate your delusion as well....
Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks View Post
Most republicans deep down are miserable people. It pains them greatly to see people living freely. They hate their own personal prison and lash out at others because of their confusion and discontent with themselves.
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Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow
It's just too bad that science and medicine says the exact opposite is true.
Not a fair comparison because Muslims are less than 2% of the US population while white evangelicals are around 30%. Demographics in the US would have to change dramatically for Islam to get a foothold here, especially fundamentalist Islam (the brand of Islam typically practice in the US is actually more gay-friendly than white evangelicalism.)
They are? If there are all of these Gay Friendly Muslims in the US, where are all of their Gay friendly Mosques? There's literately thousands of Gay friendly Evangelical churches in the US, so why would there be almost no Mosques. I did find Gay friendly Mosque, and get this, it's attached to a Church!
that's the hilarious part. the OP spends every waking second obsessing about his gender/sex issues and the 1950s, yet posts a thread accusing the world of sharing his obsession
True, Every single posts it an Evil Old White Conservative Christian male out to get you. How could I make it down the street without a white Supremacist Evangelical hitting me over the head with a bible
Other than Obama and Clinton? Democrat politicians are as honest about how they feel about the SJW gay agenda as they are about not wanting to ban guns.
Why do liberals pretend that Gender Dysphoria isn't a mental illness that should be treated and instead go to surgical lengths to cater to the illness and accept the incredibly high suicide rate among them?
Ugh. FFS. Here we go again. This is not a Liberal vs. Conservative issue. There are Conservative trans people. There are Liberal trans people. There are AnCap and Libertarian trans people. There are trans people who are Green Party members. There are trans people who are White Nationalists. There are trans people who are Black Nationalists. There are trans people who belong to La Raza.
Now on to the rest of your question...we don't pretend that Gender Dysphoria isn't a mental disorder...because it isnt.
I'll quote the experts on mental disorders, the APA:
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A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. For these individuals, the significant problem is finding affordable resources, such as counseling, hormone therapy, medical procedures and the social support necessary to freely express their gender identity and minimize discrimination. Many other obstacles may lead to distress, including a lack of acceptance within society, direct or indirect experiences with discrimination, or assault. These experiences may lead many transgender people to suffer with anxiety, depression or related disorders at higher rates than nontransgender persons.
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), people who experience intense, persistent gender incongruence can be given the diagnosis of "gender dysphoria." Some contend that the diagnosis inappropriately pathologizes gender noncongruence and should be eliminated. Others argue that it is essential to retain the diagnosis to ensure access to care. The International Classification of Diseases (ICD) is under revision and there may be changes to its current classification of intense persistent gender incongruence as "gender identity disorder."
This isn't a mental issue any more than it is a Liberal vs. Conservative issue. This is a neurobiological issue.
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Transsexuals experience themselves as being of the opposite sex, despite having the biological characteristics of one sex. A crucial question resulting from a previous brain study in male-to-female transsexuals was whether the reported difference according to gender identity in the central part of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc) was based on a neuronal difference in the BSTc itself or just a reflection of a difference in vasoactive intestinal polypeptide innervation from the amygdala, which was used as a marker. Therefore, we determined in 42 subjects the number of somatostatin-expressing neurons in the BSTc in relation to sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, and past or present hormonal status. Regardless of sexual orientation, men had almost twice as many somatostatin neurons as women (P < 0.006). The number of neurons in the BSTc of male-to-female transsexuals was similar to that of the females (P = 0.83). In contrast, the neuron number of a female-to-male transsexual was found to be in the male range. Hormone treatment or sex hormone level variations in adulthood did not seem to have influenced BSTc neuron numbers. The present findings of somatostatin neuronal sex differences in the BSTc and its sex reversal in the transsexual brain clearly support the paradigm that in transsexuals sexual differentiation of the brain and genitals may go into opposite directions and point to a neurobiological basis of gender identity disorder.
You are an intelligent man, Haakon. You can grasp this.
Look, it's weird and different, and pretty effed up. I know, I live with this every day. How can the brain and the body go in completely different directions? It doesn't make sense to you, I get that. It's because nature Fs up sometimes, and when she does sh-- gets weird. Which is why we have bizarre birth defects. Mother Nature is generally pretty even keeled most of the time, but sometimes she goes off her meds/falls asleep at the wheel/etc. and that's when weird sh-- happens. Like Gender Dysphoria. Most of us go on to live fairly normal lives post transition. It's just a big ass speed bump on the road of life, most of us get over it and move on just fine. If people don't put up road blocks, or give us too much grief over it. If you get to know us as people, instead of issues to be right on, you'll see we're far more alike than different. I've been told that I'm a pretty cool chick. I didn't even have to pay them to say nice things about me, they just did it.
Every tv show must include a fisherman. Every business must put fishing pole stickers in every store to show support for fishing. Schools must have pro fishermen curriculum to make sure all kids are brainwashed to like fishing. The govt needs to pass laws to give fishermen more rights, because well, they need them.
If you say you don't like/don't care about fishing? You are racist bigot. Because no one can have a different opinion and everyone MUST LIKE FISHING.
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I didn't even have to pay them to say nice things about me, they just did it.
