Speaking of Supreme Court justices and Roe vs Wade, can we talk about the need for common sense abortion control? (wage, injection)
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Actually I do not think that black women are so stupid that they can be coerced into having abortions that they do not want.
Why don't they use the contraceptives they can get at the exact same PP facilities where they get their abortions so that their very high rate of abortion isn't necessary in the first place? Why does failing to do such so disproportionately affect Black women?
I don't understand why people like OP think a stranger's decision to bring a child into the world (or not) is their business. It isn't. Deciding whether one can realistically become a parent is the most personal decision one can make. Who are you to judge?
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I can't speak for the OP but I can't fathom how anyone calling themselves human with a heart can think killing an unborn child is an acceptable remedy for their "ailment".
You're not answering the very simple question I asked. It's not a stranger's business what someone else does with their own body. And to drive the point home further, the majority of these so called pro-life advocates really aren't pro-life. I say this because they care little for the people who are already on this earth. They want welfare benefits cut, Medicaid cut, WIC cut, Section 8, and God forbid the minimum wage be raised so people can afford to live without being on welfare. Then they insist women be forced to have babies they can't afford because they are suddenly so concerned about life Even more ironically, they are usually advocates for increasing defense (as in war) spending.
I certainly do. I think that if you don’t get an abortion by 6 weeks, it should be very hard to justify it after that.
The problem is access. Six weeks is very close to the time that a pregnancy can be diagnosed. Then a woman has to get to someone who is willing to do an abortion. In some states, there are waiting periods and other hoops that must be jumped through. Some women have to save up money to pay for the procedure. Reducing abortion later in pregnancy can be facilitated by making it easier to get it done earlier, not harder.
Then there is the issue of teenagers who do not tell their parents as soon as they suspect they are pregnant.
That is also far too early to diagnose fetal anomalies.
You're not answering the very simple question I asked. It's not a stranger's business what someone else does with their own body. And to drive the point home further, the majority of these so called pro-life advocates really aren't pro-life. I say this because they care little for the people who are already on this earth. They want welfare benefits cut, Medicaid cut, WIC cut, Section 8, and God forbid the minimum wage be raised so people can afford to live without being on welfare. Then they insist women be forced to have babies they can't afford because they are suddenly so concerned about life Even more ironically, they are usually advocates for increasing defense (as in war) spending.
Also many of the same people support capital punishment. Its ok for govt to kill innocent men, women and children... oh so sorry... but let women decide what is best for them.. and the sky is falling. Its all about controlling women. We arent any better than many of the countries who have cultures that keep women in their place. Ours are just hidden behind a veneer of progress. But its still only a veneer.
Half of the women who have abortions were using contraception during the month in which they conceived.
I note you are not telling men to keep their pants zipped.
Half of the women who have abortions were using contraception during the month in which they conceived.
Normal people understand bc has a failure rate and those failures can result in unwanted pregnancies and then abortions. Still, ...
What about the 50% of women who were not using any bc method in the month they became pregnant. That seems like a high % if there's a true concern over unwanted pregnancy/abortion.
Even among the 50% who did use bc in the month of pregnancy, not all used them consistently or properly. Condoms, among the least reliable methods, is the most frequently used, followed by the pill, and then what should barely be called a bc method, withdrawal.
For those who agree abortion should be safe, legal, andrare, those stats aren't terrific; for those who leave out andrare, the stats don't matter.
Targeting? How about most of that map shows high population areas
Targeting? or locating where the services re most needed?
Blacks make up about 16% of the population. So you are saying blacks just like abortion more? Kinda racist, don't you think?
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Even more ironically, they are usually advocates for increasing defense (as in war) spending.
