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Old 04-01-2008, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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I'm more with Frank C on this issue, I believe in "appropriate" intervention. In no way, no form, and no how am I in favor of isolation.

I believe the network of nations via NATO, the African Union (AU) and other aliances is the way to deal with the world issues. For example, the AU should have the lead in Sudan, with us as more of a support player.
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I'm more with Frank C on this issue, I believe in "appropriate" intervention. In no way, no form, and no how am I in favor of isolation.

I believe the network of nations via NATO, the African Union (AU) and other aliances is the way to deal with the world issues. For example, the AU should have the lead in Sudan, with us as more of a support player.
Oh, definitely. I see them stepping right up. They have a real tradition of doing so.
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Oh, definitely. I see them stepping right up. They have a real tradition of doing so.
This discussion is of our view of appropriate international intervention or participation. The failure of the AU to act doesn't mean I think we should substitute our efforts as compensation. I do believe that we should "encourage" them to take the appropriate leadership role, and we should be part of the peripheral support team.
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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This discussion is of our view of appropriate international intervention or participation. The failure of the AU to act doesn't mean I think we should substitute our efforts as compensation. I do believe that we should "encourage" them to take the appropriate leadership role, and we should be part of the peripheral support team.
I guess I am curious if there is any particular reason why you believe that such encouragement might be efficacious in addressing the problem, with so much evidence to the contrary.

Or is it forbidden of me to question that, as well?
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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The UN attempted to broker some Sudan discussions via the AU and has failed (so far).

One of the key obstacles is the inability to ensure that fair elections could be held. A key element we could assist the AU in resolving is how to hold acceptable elections within the context of the Darfur conflicts.

But not to hijack the thread, this would be a whole separate discussion. My bottom line is we could use our diplomatic processes to encourage the AU to help move the process forward, whatever that may be.

Darfur peace talks in 'serious trouble' - Los Angeles Times (broken link)
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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The UN attempted to broker some Sudan discussions via the AU and has failed (so far).

One of the key obstacles is the inability to ensure that fair elections could be held. A key element we could assist the AU in resolving is how to hold acceptable elections within the context of the Darfur conflicts.

But not to hijack the thread, this would be a whole separate discussion. My bottom line is we could use our diplomatic processes to encourage the AU to help move the process forward, whatever that may be.

Darfur peace talks in 'serious trouble' - Los Angeles Times (broken link)
The UN, huh? Okay. Whatever you say.
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:10 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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The difference between America as a superpower and the Nato or the UN is that it is not just 1 country.
Some would say that the UN is too slow to police the world, but at least being part of a group prohibits it from acting as the world’s Lone Ranger or the world’s bully.
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:37 AM
 
Location: Boise
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to the question asked by the thread poster... my answer is NO
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