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In other words you're saying that the FBI and CIA run the country, and the rest of us just better get out of the way.
What I would say is, it's impossible for "the politicians" to go too far in this regard. The FBI and CIA are supposed to be subordinate to "the politicians" and, more importantly, the people.
No. The so-called “Deep State” agencies are charged with enforcing the law. They don’t go “rogue”. All of their actions have to be based on legislation, or on Federal regulations based upon law, and are subject to review by an independent judiciary.
You didn’t elect a king, though at times he seems to think he is one.
In other words you're saying that the FBI and CIA run the country, and the rest of us just better get out of the way.
What I would say is, it's impossible for "the politicians" to go too far in this regard. The FBI and CIA are supposed to be subordinate to "the politicians" and, more importantly, the people.
"in other words" followed by utter nonsense. Go READ what I said. I said that the CIA and FBI are upset because the politicians are interfering with the LAW. Something everyone should condemn. The FBI is investigating illegal activities. You know...Theyre doing their JOB. Not running the country.
But hey if you want to defend illegal activity feel free. But dont put words into my mouth.
No. The so-called “Deep State” agencies are charged with enforcing the law. They don’t go “rogue”. All of their actions have to be based on legislation, or on Federal regulations based upon law, and are subject to review by an independent judiciary.
You didn’t elect a king, though at times he seems to think he is one.
"in other words" followed by utter nonsense. Go READ what I said. I said that the CIA and FBI are upset because the politicians are interfering with the LAW. Something everyone should condemn. The FBI is investigating illegal activities. You know...Theyre doing their JOB. Not running the country.
But hey if you want to defend illegal activity feel free. But dont put words into my mouth.
You said it. I didn't.
You said nothing about "the law", and one certainly can't presume that the activities of the FBI have anything to do with the law (even though they are supposed to), and the CIA isn't even supposed to have anything to do with law enforcement.
No. The so-called “Deep State” agencies are charged with enforcing the law. They don’t go “rogue”.
No, they are not charged with enforcing the law. The DOJ/FBI is, but not the rest. And OBVIOUSLY the FBI does sometimes go rogue. We've known that for decades. Hoover, Mueller, Comey -- the FBI is usually run by sleazeballs.
Oh, wait -- maybe by "going rogue" you mean doing their actual job instead of following the director's political agenda. In that case, you might be right that they don't go rogue.
No, that's not evident. You're presuming good faith, and there's no reason to do that with a US Senator.
One of the errors in this line of thought is that at some point you need to trust in congress and the FBI, you will never have access to all the information while an investigation is in progress. Its one thing to be cynical its quite another to claim there is always some underlying reason when someone disagrees with your opinion.
We are at a point now where some people will not ever be convinced of anything regardless of the facts presented.
One of the errors in this line of thought is that at some point you need to trust in congress and the FBI, you will never have access to all the information while an investigation is in progress.
No, there is never a point at which you "have to" trust Congress or the FBI. They're not trustworthy. There is, however, a point at which you have to accept that you can't know something because there is no trustworthy source. I'm comfortable with that.
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