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Old 07-30-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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The natural cycle adds and removes CO2 to keep a balance; humans add extra CO2 without removing any.
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Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions
“The oceans contain 37,400 billion tons (GT) of suspended carbon, land biomass has 2000-3000 GT. The atpmosphere contains 720 billion tons of CO2 and humans contribute only 6 GT additional load on this balance. The oceans, land and atpmosphere exchange CO2 continuously so the additional load by humans is incredibly small. A small shift in the balance between oceans and air would cause a CO2 much more severe rise than anything we could produce.” (Jeff Id)
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efore the industrial revolution, the CO2 content in the air remained quite steady for thousands of years. Natural CO2 is not static, however. It is generated by natural processes, and absorbed by others.

As you can see in Figure 1, natural land and ocean carbon remains roughly in balance and have done so for a long time – and we know this because we can measure historic levels of CO2 in the atmosphere both directly (in ice cores) and indirectly (through proxies).



Figure 1: Global carbon cycle. Numbers represent flux of carbon dioxide in gigatons (Source: Figure 7.3, IPCC AR4).

But consider what happens when more CO2 is released from outside of the natural carbon cycle – by burning fossil fuels. Although our output of 29 gigatons of CO2 is tiny compared to the 750 gigatons moving through the carbon cycle each year, it adds up because the land and ocean cannot absorb all of the extra CO2. About 40% of this additional CO2 is absorbed. The rest remains in the atmosphere, and as a consequence, atmospheric CO2 is at its highest level in 15 to 20 million years (Tripati 2009). (A natural change of 100ppm normally takes 5,000 to 20,000 years. The recent increase of 100ppm has taken just 120 years).

Human CO2 emissions upset the natural balance of the carbon cycle. Man-made CO2 in the atmosphere has increased by a third since the pre-industrial era, creating an artificial forcing of global temperatures which is warming the planet. While fossil-fuel derived CO2 is a very small component of the global carbon cycle, the extra CO2 is cumulative because the natural carbon exchange cannot absorb all the additional CO2.

The level of atmospheric CO2 is building up, the additional CO2 is being produced by burning fossil fuels, and that build up is accelerating.
https://www.skepticalscience.com/hum...-emissions.htm

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Human activities emit 60 or more times the amount of carbon dioxide released by volcanoes each year. Large, violent eruptions may match the rate of human emissions for the few hours that they last, but they are too rare and fleeting to rival humanity’s annual emissions. In fact, several individual U.S. states emit more carbon dioxide in a year than all the volcanoes on the planet combined do.
https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...man-activities

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Increasing CO2 has little to no effect
"While major green house gas H2O substantially warms the Earth, minor green house gases such as CO2 have little effect.... The 6-fold increase in hydrocarbon use since 1940 has had no noticeable effect on atmospheric temperature ... " (Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide)
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The greenhouse effect works like this: Energy arrives from the sun in the form of visible light and ultraviolet radiation. The Earth then emits some of this energy as infrared radiation. Greenhouse gases in the atmosphere 'capture' some of this heat, then re-emit it in all directions - including back to the Earth's surface.

Through this process, CO2 and other greenhouse gases keep the Earth’s surface 33°Celsius (59.4°F) warmer than it would be without them. We have added 42% more CO2, and temperatures have gone up. There should be some evidence that links CO2 to the temperature rise.

So far, the average global temperature has gone up by about 0.8 degrees C (1.4°F):

"According to an ongoing temperature analysis conducted by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS)…the average global temperature on Earth has increased by about 0.8°Celsius (1.4°Fahrenheit) since 1880. Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade."

The temperatures are going up, just like the theory predicted. But where’s the connection with CO2, or other greenhouse gases like methane, ozone or nitrous oxide?

The connection can be found in the spectrum of greenhouse radiation. Using high-resolution FTIR spectroscopy, we can measure the exact wavelengths of long-wave (infrared) radiation reaching the ground.



Sure enough, we can see that CO2 is adding considerable warming, along with ozone (O3) and methane (CH4). This is called surface radiative forcing, and the measurements are part of the empirical evidence that CO2 is causing the warming.
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The amount of warming caused by the anthropogenic increase in atmospheric CO2 may be one of the most misunderstood subjects in climate science. Many people think the anthropogenic warming can't be quantified, many others think it must be an insignificant amount. However, climate scientists have indeed quantified the anthropogenic contribution to global warming using empirical observations and fundamental physical equations.
https://www.skepticalscience.com/emp...fect-basic.htm

 
Old 07-30-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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Anything that doesn’t support YOUR existing beliefs is fake news.
Except ours is based on actual findings and data. Your's is based plugging your ears and saying "I cant hear you!"..
 
Old 07-30-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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Except ours is based on actual findings and data. Your's is based plugging your ears and saying "I cant hear you!"..
Everyones are based on copy and paste from sources that agree with their bias. Yours are no exception. No one reads the posts of the others and no ones mind is changed.
 
Old 07-30-2018, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Whats happening now is not a natural cycle of Earths climate but the consequence of mans use of 100 million barrels a day of oil.


false


it is the natural cycle....






liberfools always try to find someone to blame, and therefore tax
 
Old 07-30-2018, 02:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Chicano3000X View Post
Except ours is based on actual findings and data. Your's is based plugging your ears and saying "I cant hear you!"..
Your is based on paid-for opinions, not actual research.
 
Old 07-30-2018, 02:16 PM
 
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Your is based on paid-for opinions, not actual research.
Riiight.. Whatever man..
 
Old 07-30-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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false


it is the natural cycle....






liberfools always try to find someone to blame, and therefore tax
Do you have research that indicates the warming in the last 100 years is natural.
 
Old 07-30-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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It's getting worse that's for sure. Here in California, already having record forest fires, and not even into the worst of the season yet!
 
Old 07-30-2018, 07:45 PM
 
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It snowed this past winter. Climate change is a hoax. Checkmate, snowflakes!
 
Old 07-31-2018, 02:20 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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It's getting worse that's for sure. Here in California, already having record forest fires, and not even into the worst of the season yet!
Many forest fires are caused by humans, not weather.
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