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Old 08-05-2018, 07:21 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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If the tariffs benefit China, why is their market down?
The Chinese stock market is in the toilet and headed further South. If the NeverTrumpers were right, shouldn't the Chinese stock market be doing well?
Here's the chart for six months.


In fact, Japan just surpassed China in terms of market value.

https://www.straitstimes.com/busines...amid-trade-war


Seems to me like the tariff discussions are working for America.

 
Old 08-05-2018, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Tariffs hurt all involved.
 
Old 08-05-2018, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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The Chinese stock market does all kinds of weird and bizarre things on a fairly regular basis. It is not a good place to gauge the health of the Chinese economy.
 
Old 08-05-2018, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
If the tariffs benefit China, why is their market down?
The Chinese stock market is in the toilet and headed further South. If the NeverTrumpers were right, shouldn't the Chinese stock market be doing well?
Here's the chart for six months.


In fact, Japan just surpassed China in terms of market value.

https://www.straitstimes.com/busines...amid-trade-war


Seems to me like the tariff discussions are working for America.
Until we see how the market fluctuates for at least a good 2 years or more, this is just coincidence. China is putting a lot of money into Africa right now, and maybe after the South African farmers being kicked off of their lands and the situation in Zimbabwe have investors a little bit worried about China's investments.
 
Old 08-05-2018, 08:18 PM
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Xi is not liking this. You could see it in his eyes.
 
Old 08-05-2018, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Until we see how the market fluctuates for at least a good 2 years or more, this is just coincidence. China is putting a lot of money into Africa right now, and maybe after the South African farmers being kicked off of their lands and the situation in Zimbabwe have investors a little bit worried about China's investments.
China is hedging it’s bets with the most unstable and unproductive parts of the world because it’s attempts to curry favor in the developed world have fallen flat.

I can promise it won’t end the way they hope it will.
 
Old 08-05-2018, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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If the tariffs benefit China, why is their market down?

Tariffs for the most part aren't good for anyone.
The Smoot-Hawley Tariff act is what ushered in the stock market crash and World Wide Great
Depression, according to many financial experts.


Did Trade Tariffs Cause the Great Depression? | Fortune


I am not sure what happened to the Republican believe in Capitalism and Free Trade.
 
Old 08-05-2018, 11:05 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The US is the biggest consumer market in the world. China knows that it cannot withstand a trade war. Their retaliatory tariffs are to save face. But what you won’t hear from CNN is that China already put huge tariffs on US goods. Trump is just leveling the playing field.
 
Old 08-05-2018, 11:12 PM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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Does the Chinese stock market accurately reflect the quality of their labor market? Are Chinese wages stagnating relative to their inflation rate? Does it actually reflect future hiring practices of Chinese companies? If not, then there's a disconnect between their stock market and their labor market -- just as here in the USA.
 
Old 08-05-2018, 11:26 PM
 
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China is hedging it’s bets with the most unstable and unproductive parts of the world because it’s attempts to curry favor in the developed world have fallen flat.

I can promise it won’t end the way they hope it will.
So is Russia for that matter, what of it?


By the way just what you defining as "unproductive" and or "unstable" parts of the world anyway?
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