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Old 08-10-2018, 03:05 PM
 
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Alcoa says it needs protection from protectionism.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/08/10/a...mpression=true
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:07 PM
 
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I love how the article points out that the fact that Trump is unpredictable, and the tariffs are short term means that no one wants to invest in making aluminum plants.
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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More corporate welfare thanks to President Bonkers' tariffs.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Make the aluminum here. Problem solved. The world is relatively peaceful today, but it wasn't always that way, and it may not always remain this way. We need to ensure that our nation is capable of producing ample supplies of various metals. You never know when we may suddenly be forced to ramp up production in order to save the world. We've done it before and we may be called upon to do it again.

If liberals got their way, we would wilt into a withered, limped wristed banana republic. Too fat to fight, to stupid to know how, and pretty much incapable of constructing the necessary weapons of war. We would be impotent in the event of a real war.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:38 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Make the aluminum here. Problem solved. The world is relatively peaceful today, but it wasn't always that way, and it may not always remain this way. We need to ensure that our nation is capable of producing ample supplies of various metals. You never know when we may suddenly be forced to ramp up production in order to save the world. We've done it before and we may be called upon to do it again.

If liberals got their way, we would wilt into a withered, limped wristed banana republic. Too fat to fight, to stupid to know how, and pretty much incapable of constructing the necessary weapons of war. We would be impotent in the event of a real war.


Ahh yes, because isolationism worked oh-so-well in our past.


All this will do is drive up costs for the consumers, again.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Example #54258552 of why tariffs are taxes (and why taxation is theft).

Example #5000 that Trump is anti-capitalist.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Trump with aluminum. Obama with tires. Bush with steel.

Even Hill Dawg talked big on tariffs during the campaign.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/08/11/new...ade/index.html

We might as well have a seance and elect Marx's ghost as president.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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More corporate welfare thanks to President Bonkers' tariffs.

So they have their greedy little hands out...what else is new?
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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Example #54258552 of why tariffs are taxes (and why taxation is theft).

Example #5000 that Trump is anti-capitalist.

Yes, tariffs are taxes, but they are taxes paid by a willing consumer and people in some other country trying to sell their products here.

Well, selling here is a privilege awarded to countries that, among other considerations, buy our products.

China has a four to one trade advantage with the US.

This is unacceptable.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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Yes, tariffs are taxes, but they are taxes paid by a willing consumer and people in some other country trying to sell their products here.

Well, selling here is a privilege awarded to countries that, among other considerations, buy our products.

China has a four to one trade advantage with the US.

This is unacceptable.
So deal with China. Trump has throw tariffs at allies.

Seling here is a privilege awarded to other countries. Same with the USA selling in other countries .

Willing consumers. You have no choice when all prices go up.

It just doesn't raise the prices of imports -- you don't seem to know that.
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