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Old 08-12-2018, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Many of you are unaware of how much Turkey has changed...you really underplay it. Do a search on Turkey secularism and you will find thousands and thousands of articles of how Turkey has been shifting from secularism to Sharia.
I spent time in Turkey before this so-called shift. My understanding of things is based on firsthand accounts and travel. I saw plenty of women in hijab while in Istanbul some years ago, and even more (or a higher percentage) when traveling throughout the countryside.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Have you been to Turkey? Many in Turkey didn't and don't cover their hair. But many did and still continue to do so.

As for Turkey embracing Islamism, I say good for them. So long as they don't engage in Islamist extremism and start funding terrorism.
Unfortunately, that's how it starts. Those who wear the hijab will shortly demand that all do it because it's God's will. You fight that and you are an infidel. And we know what happens to infidels.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Anyone who is wishing that Turkey's population goes through hardship is sick-minded and evil.
So you're not for sanctions either I take it.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:33 PM
 
Location: The South
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Have you been to Turkey? Many in Turkey didn't and don't cover their hair. But many did and still continue to do so.

As for Turkey embracing Islamism, I say good for them. So long as they don't engage in Islamist extremism and start funding terrorism.
I haven’t been to Turkey, but I have seen Midnight Express, the movie so I have no desire to visit.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:43 PM
 
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So you're not for sanctions either I take it.
Actually, I'm not for people who wish suffering on entire populations.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I vacationed in Turkey in the 90's. Lovely country and people based on my experiences. No shortage of women in hijab scarves. The further the distance from Istanbul, the more conservative the population gets.

This year, tourism is exploding in Turkey as Europeans, especially the Brits, fly in for affordable be beach holidays.

The central bank's of countries, including the US, operate independent of government. This is no longer the case in Turkey. Erdogan put his son in law in charge of economic policy. Erdogan wants low interest rates while the most common method of fighting inflation is to increase rates.

Historically, the US has moderated when emerging economies get in trouble. This time, the US doubled tariffs on steel imports from Turkey.

I cannot imagine taking delight when people suffer.
Tourism is up only compared to the previous year when tourism was way down after the coup attempt and violence at the airport in Istanbul....they are still below the numbers they were seeing before the unrest. But yes, it's a bargain to go there now if you bring dollars, pounds, Euros, and particularly Rubles as they have far more Russian tourists than anything else.

I'm working in a neighboring country, Azerbaijan, and would seriously consider vacationing in Turkey but not with their current anti-America rhetoric coming from the top.

As far as moderate Muslim countries go, Azerbaijan definitely qualifies and allows freedom of worship regardless of religion and women feel free to dress how they choose.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Same mental thought that poisons all Americans. You all believe the suffering of your enemy is a moral good.

What sick twisted people.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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We need Turkey and they need us, this isn’t good news.
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Old 08-12-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: New Jersey (Europe Sep ‘19)
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Turkey should recognize the Armenian/Assyrian/Pontac Greek Genocide. They elected a moron Islamic militant president who is basically ISIS supporter and anti-Westerner.
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Old 08-12-2018, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Actually, I'm not for people who wish suffering on entire populations.
By this measure, you must also be against the decade-long sanctions against South Africa too.
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