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Old 08-13-2018, 04:53 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why are people trashing up your property - is this the beach?
Yes. The dry sand beach is my private property. Deeded to me. No public use easement. No garbage collection. I have to clean up my dry sand beach every day and pay the public utility contracted by my local municipality to haul it all away. Beer bottles/cans, dirty used diapers, etc. You name it. People leave it on my privately owned property.

Imagine if every state/municipality allowed that abuse in everyone's privately owned back yard.

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Old 08-13-2018, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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More Marxism. I guess they were emboldened by their defeat of the white nationalists yesterday.

I honestly don't know who's worse--Marxists or Trump cultists.

By the way--property rights ARE absolute. Period, end of story.
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Old 08-13-2018, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Thanks for the laugh OP.
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Old 08-13-2018, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Who finances Public Works, and Government? Private enterprise, and private individuals. Go take your "You didn't build that!" and place it somewhere ahhhhhh, private.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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More Marxism. I guess they were emboldened by their defeat of the white nationalists yesterday.
LOL.

I thoroughly enjoyed this comment.

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Old 08-13-2018, 07:21 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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On the most basic level, private property is theft. Just remember that before you make a ridiculous “taxation is theft” argument.





There is no such thing as "Private Property" available to the Citizens. Only government owns "Private Property"


What we are able to "manage and improve or demolish, is called Real Estate. You do not own it outright. You pay rent, to the county and if in the city or township, if in those boundaries.


In the Republican Form of Government.......
People have private property.
Citizens have Real Estate.


IN SHORT,
The American citizen has no endowed right to life, nor liberty, nor absolute ownership because, as a citizen subject, he can be ordered to train, fight, and die, on command (militia duty), and was obligated to give up a portion of his property (taxes, etc).
However, that does not negate the endowed rights of the American people (noncitizens) who did not consent to be governed.

BUT if you consented, shut up, sit down, pay and obey.
WHY?
BECAUSE Citizens are NOT sovereigns.
Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed. p.244, 1425
State v. Manuel, 20 N.C. 144 (1838)


So which one are you?
One of the sovereign people who directly exercise sovereignty over their person, liberty and property, whose endowed rights are secured by government?
Or one of the subject citizens who indirectly exercise sovereignty via delegation to representatives, and have surrendered endowed rights in exchange for civil and political liberties (i.e."rights") by consent to be governed?
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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What is the OP getting at?



I'd like to hear more about his/her theory.



All land was stolen from Native American .....or something....
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:41 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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All land was stolen from Native American .....or something....



I don't know if I can get 3/4 of the people in Georgia to clear out, so I can have my land back?
Andrew Jackson, kinda screwed us over.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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LOL.

I thoroughly enjoyed this comment.

A little humor is the best medicine for dealing with Statists--especially Marxists.
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Old 08-15-2018, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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On the most basic level, private property is theft. Just remember that before you make a ridiculous “taxation is theft” argument.
How is private property is theft?
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