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They should have the safety-net resources for families in the $100,000-$300,000 a year range and not the poor families with children.
The poor and very wealthy seem to have high birth rates, but there seems to be a low rate for those in the $100,000-$300,000 a year range who pay lots in taxes and get nothing in return who could raise give children that would pay for more taxes in the future than today's Medicaid babies, illegals and third-world refugees.
Would be a great thing instead of poor families having free day-care, free-EBT, free-TANF and free-section 8 vouching if they instead reallocated the welfare to wealthier families that need to increase birth rates.
With two workers per retiree in the future. Medicaid babies, refugees, illegal aliens are not going to be able to pay the bills for future generations safety-net like upper-middle class wealthier families.
Low-brow humor usually escapes me.....you’re joking, right?
Low-brow humor usually escapes me.....you’re joking, right?
Absolutely, look at the birth rates in Fountain Valley and Scottsdale compared to Maryvale, Glendale and El Mirage.
America needs higher birth rates from upper-middle class families so they deserve programs that are tailored to them which could be revenue neutral by eliminate the safety-net for poor families.
Seems like poor families are having babies just for big, huge welfare checks from the federal, state and local governments.
Down the road in 2035, 2040, 2045 those Medicaid babies of today will likely be criminals, welfare, dealers and another cycle of poor people having babies thanks to safety-net for poor families.
We do need higher birth rates from upper-middle class though. Families from $100,000-$300,000 in my opinion should have the daycare vouchers, EBT, WIC ,utility assistance etc. instead of poor families who are just having baby after baby to get a massive increase in welfare programs.
They should have the safety-net resources for families in the $100,000-$300,000 a year range and not the poor families with children.
The poor and very wealthy seem to have high birth rates, but there seems to be a low rate for those in the $100,000-$300,000 a year range who pay lots in taxes and get nothing in return who could raise give children that would pay for more taxes in the future than today's Medicaid babies, illegals and third-world refugees.
Would be a great thing instead of poor families having free day-care, free-EBT, free-TANF and free-section 8 vouching if they instead reallocated the welfare to wealthier families that need to increase birth rates.
With two workers per retiree in the future. Medicaid babies, refugees, illegal aliens are not going to be able to pay the bills for future generations safety-net like upper-middle class wealthier families.
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Originally Posted by lovecrowds
Absolutely, look at the birth rates in Fountain Valley and Scottsdale compared to Maryvale, Glendale and El Mirage.
America needs higher birth rates from upper-middle class families so they deserve programs that are tailored to them which could be revenue neutral by eliminate the safety-net for poor families.
Seems like poor families are having babies just for big, huge welfare checks from the federal, state and local governments.
Down the road in 2035, 2040, 2045 those Medicaid babies of today will likely be criminals, welfare, dealers and another cycle of poor people having babies thanks to safety-net for poor families.
We do need higher birth rates from upper-middle class though. Families from $100,000-$300,000 in my opinion should have the daycare vouchers, EBT, WIC ,utility assistance etc. instead of poor families who are just having baby after baby to get a massive increase in welfare programs.
For one thing, unless I overlooked something, your lovely little birthrate chart stopped at $100,000. If you have evidence, as claimed in your opening post, that the very wealthy have such high birth rates, please produce it.
Second, if you really want to do away with welfare, I disagree with you, but at least be consistent about it, instead of giving it to people who don't actually need it.
Third, I strongly suspect that many of the couples who have chosen to have only one or two children have done so because - gasp - they only want one or two children. I am not sure that the financial incentives you have suggested will convince them to have more.
Fourth, what you have suggested is essentially economic eugenics, and thoroughly disgusting.
Fifth, of all the crazy/stupid/loopy suggestions I have seen on here, this has to be one of the crazy/stupid/loopiest.
I could list a whole bunch of other things that are wrong with this idea, but I need to take a break now, because my head hurts.
The nation needs to increase birth rates for those making $100,000-$300,000 a year so we have educated workers who have potential paying future tax bills instead of today's Medicaid babies, illegal aliens and refugees.
You should perhaps advocate for changing immigration policy similar to the points system based like in Canada.
Many poor people do work, or some may not be able to due to being disabled.
If minimum wage wasn’t crappy low there would have been less poor people.
To a point. But if the jobs aren't out there, hunger will motivate people to do whatever they need to do to survive, ethical/legal or not.
If you've never been poor, then you can't fully understand this.
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