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Old 08-22-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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In case Mueller doesn't actually indict Trump on anything:

A question for our liberal friends: do you think Whitewater was a successful, needed, investigation? Because you know, Whitewater investigation resulted in convictions of 15 people on 40 charges. One was a sitting Governor, and was removed from office. It didn't indict Clintons.

Bill Clinton pardoned 4 of these people.

And those charges were actually related to what the Special Council was charged with investigating. Unlike Mueller's indictments/convictions so far (other than the fake ones "indicting" Russians that can never be put on trial).
I think an investigation of Madison Guaranty was merited. Whitewater was just a failed real estate deal.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Mueller has blown his two biggest cases. The Russian collusion nonsense is dead.

Kitty is off her feed if she really believes this nonsense.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:05 PM
 
Location: My House
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Open thread about Trump, discover a pivot to Whitewater.

Yeah... that sounds about right.

To answer your question, I've never really looked into it. I was in my early 20s at the time, It think it was (I never voted for Clinton) and I was too busy with a small kid to be keeping track of it.

I don't care now, though. I do remember that Nixon resigned, but only because people still talk about it all these years later whenever a President is seen as being guilty of a crime.

Which, I don't recall anyone comparing Clinton to Nixon except during the Lewinsky thing. And that had to do with lying under oath.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Trump is the best organizing tool we have. We need him around in 2018 and to run and lose in 2020 to help us gain more seats across the country.

Not sure that will be enough.

As more and more people reenter the workforce, they will once again become tax payers, and tax payers make ****-poor Democrats.
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Old 08-22-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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In case Mueller doesn't actually indict Trump on anything:

A question for our liberal friends: do you think Whitewater was a successful, needed, investigation? Because you know, Whitewater investigation resulted in convictions of 15 people on 40 charges. One was a sitting Governor, and was removed from office. It didn't indict Clintons.

Bill Clinton pardoned 4 of these people.

And those charges were actually related to what the Special Council was charged with investigating. Unlike Mueller's indictments/convictions so far (other than the fake ones "indicting" Russians that can never be put on trial).
I think the Mueller investigation is more akin to the McMartin Preschool trial and witch hunt than Whitewater. In McMartin, lives were destroyed along with personal fortunes, children were traumatized and it all amounted to nothing.
At least Whitewater had some basis for investigation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial
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Old 08-22-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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Well Whitewater lasted for roughly 8 years with Starr running it for almost 4 years. If the Mueller probe goes that long they'll have to run the government out of the federal prison system.
Post of the day.

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Old 08-22-2018, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Yet it's true.

Not one thing has come out that links Trump to any illegal collusion with Russians to hack the election.


I know you guys are in denial, but that just makes it more delicious.
Nothing has come out.

Yet.

But Trump himself has said there's something there recently. Cohen's lawyer said the same much more bluntly this morning.

Enjoy the 'deliciousness' if you must, but Russian hacking should not ever taste delicious to a patriotic American. Indeed, the whiff of it should stink of putrefaction to any true patriot.

The hacking is like gangrene to our political bloodstream. Rotten flesh that has to be removed so the rest of the body can survive.
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Old 08-22-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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Clinton (both of them) was smart enough not to pop off at the mouth every day about the investigation. Starr had less to work with in this regard. Not the case with Trump who keeps putting himself in greater danger due to him always posting something on Twitter which it seems he doesn't realize is considered a public record while he's in office....


I'm an independent and don't want to see Trump impeached or in any serious danger at least until 2019-2020 when a new election cycle comes up. I'd rather he just lose the next election. Mostly because I don't want to deal with Pence as president and I especially don't want to see/hear all you Trumpsters b**ching about him being set up or some other false narrative you'll create. But IMO the latter will occur anyway (Trumpsters b**ching) because that's what you all seem to like to do the most.
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