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I think it wonderful that Sen. John McCain is being honored in such a way. The ceremony is truly beautiful, seeing the Honor Guard always impresses me (Visit the Changing of the Guard at Arlington National Cemetery at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier for an awe inspiring experience, performed multiple times a day, 365 days a year) and seeing all the dignitaries from both sides of the aisle is a wonderful sight, it truly is. What an impressive display.
McCain was a bitter man, thanks to losing in the primaries in 2000 to G.W. and losing in 2008. To some degree I'm sure he blamed the voters who disagreed with him on how to handle illegal immigrants. I once saw him look up at the camera on the Senate floor and angrily call Americans bigots for wanting illegals deported. He obviously didn't care about the damage being done to communities or protecting our citizens.
Last night I watched a documentary on HBO about McCain called "For Whom The Bell Tolls". Towards the end he was giving a speech somewhere and once again had to bash "nationalists" and I believe he said isolationists as well. While watching it I wanted to like the guy as a politician, hoping maybe there was something from his earliest days as a Senator I could like about him, but there was very little, outside of campaign finance reform. Ironically, that's exactly what we need today yet he and the rest of the Senators have been silent on the issue as far as I know.
Having said all of that McCain did serve his country during a time of war and became a prisoner of war. For that he deserves our respect. As a Senator, not so much in my book.
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I think it wonderful that Sen. John McCain is being honored in such a way. The ceremony is truly beautiful, seeing the Honor Guard always impresses me (Visit the Changing of the Guard at Arlington National Cemetery at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier for an awe inspiring experience, performed multiple times a day, 365 days a year) and seeing all the dignitaries from both sides of the aisle is a wonderful sight, it truly is. What an impressive display.
^ I truly do understand why many people were not fans of McCain. I'm speaking strictly from a political perspective. I didn't find the man to be a particularly erudite politician by any stretch of the definition, and many of his views, especially on foreign intervention, I strictly opposed.
In regards to the memorial service, his daughter Meghan gave a very long winded speech that she blubbered through, choking back tears the entire length of the speech, and never once did I see a tear roll down her cheek. Not a one. Just an observation.
While watching the church service for McCain this morning I was saddened that politics and hate couldn't be left out of such a place. Meghan just couldn't let it be, just couldn't leave her political/personal issues at the freaking door of the church and just had to take her moment, a moment that could've been a tribute to her father using what he did in fact try and teach everyone which is to be decent.
No, she had to take her shots at the President in a place where that SHOULD be left outside, where forgiveness and grace are taught, something her dad tried to champion. I hope it makes HER feel better, sadly, it makes her look bitter, small and petty.
While watching the church service for McCain this morning I was saddened that politics and hate couldn't be left out of such a place. Meghan just couldn't let it be, just couldn't leave her political/personal issues at the freaking door of the church and just had to take her moment, a moment that could've been a tribute to her father using what he did in fact try and teach everyone which is to be decent.
No, she had to take her shots at the President in a place where that SHOULD be left outside, where forgiveness and grace are taught, something her dad tried to champion. I hope it makes HER feel better, sadly, it makes her look bitter, small and petty.
I didn't say he was always successful or anything other than "he tried" because he did try to show grace and forgiveness. He showed it several times when campaigning against Obama, he showed it when he went back to Vietnam, he showed it several times when people spoke ill of others, people who were his adversaries and even spoke ill of him.
Was he perfect? No, certainly not and I was no fan of his.
I do believe though that he'd not have taken political cheap shots from a pulpit at a freaking funeral.
I didn't say he was always successful or anything other than "he tried" because he did try to show grace and forgiveness. He showed it several times when campaigning against Obama, he showed it when he went back to Vietnam, he showed it several times when people spoke ill of others, people who were his adversaries and even spoke ill of him.
Was he perfect? No, certainly not and I was no fan of his.
I do believe though that he'd not have taken political cheap shots from a pulpit at a freaking funeral.
I disagree. He did it at his own death.
In Washington, even death is political -- a fact McCain well understood as a sought-after eulogizer himself, and by planning his funeral rites to exclude the President, he will be making an unmistakable posthumous statement directed at the White House.
While watching the church service for McCain this morning I was saddened that politics and hate couldn't be left out of such a place. Meghan just couldn't let it be, just couldn't leave her political/personal issues at the freaking door of the church and just had to take her moment, a moment that could've been a tribute to her father using what he did in fact try and teach everyone which is to be decent.
No, she had to take her shots at the President in a place where that SHOULD be left outside, where forgiveness and grace are taught, something her dad tried to champion. I hope it makes HER feel better, sadly, it makes her look bitter, small and petty.
I expected better from her.
I disagree. This is a funeral for her father and she has the right to talk about her father any way she wants. Her father was a politician. If some are offended by what Meghan said, perhaps you should ask yourself why, instead of shutting down conversation and the truth by constantly saying, "it is not the time."
In Washington, even death is political -- a fact McCain well understood as a sought-after eulogizer himself, and by planning his funeral rites to exclude the President, he will be making an unmistakable posthumous statement directed at the White House.
Would you want someone who has been publicly insulting you at your funeral?
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