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Old 09-07-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
As we can see, you did not read the link dated 2 January 2017...When was the election?











^^^^


https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cyb...204935758.html


Are you even responding to my post? Obama took actions, history recorded this as fact, deal with it. Your link does not refute my NYT article.

 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:10 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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Originally Posted by fitzy24 View Post
He's attacking the lies Crooked Trump has been telling through his presidency. And...even if he was attacking Crooked Trump and the cowardly republicans, so what? Crooked Trump attacks Democrats every time he opens his pie hole.
I find it ironic that Trump has done everything he can to un-do everything Obama did and has spoken bad about him at every opportunity with horrible words that the second Obama decides to campaign for the other side the cult members call it "attacking". lol

They are not even on the same planet when it comes to speaking.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Same ol' Bammy. How do you know when he's lying? His lips are moving. You would think he and Hillary would salvage what little dignity they have and live out their lives in obscurity.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:12 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
What was the point of the Obama Presidency?

To make identity politics the norm in the U.S.?
Yes.

And Obama wants people to forget about jobs and rising wages and a more secure country and be upset about the birth certificate questions.

Talk about holding a grudge. Dang, man, you won twice and one of the people you ran against is dead. Let it go!
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by subaru5555 View Post
Are you even responding to my post? Obama took actions, history recorded this as fact, deal with it.

After the election and after he told his staff to stand down....after he knew they were messing with our election.....you deal with it...why did he tell his staff to stand down? Why did he not kick the Russian our prior to the election?


He failed, even though he did something after the election....
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Rambler123 View Post
Trump isn't fit to tie Obama's shoes.

That said, there's really no point to him campaigning against Trump. Anyone who is not a cultist or who hasn't been living under a rock for the past few decades knows Trump is an insane scumbag liar who isn't fit to run a lemonade stand. Not one Trumper who licks his boots today would be stupid enough to trust Trump with their money, house, or wife, but they expect us to believe he can be trusted to run the nation! The facts would disagree, but righties don't care about facts.

So, in the end, Obama probably shouldn't bother. Him being there will just trigger the right-wing loons who can't stand the notion of a black man in the White House, and everybody else with an IQ above their shoe size is already going to vote against Trump.
He only mentioned Trump once. He's campaigning for a sane America. That's a lot for Trump voters to deal with. Their vested in a lunatic. Besides--Obama's approval is 65% and Trump's is 35%. It will be good for people to be reminded of what a mature adult sounds like while Bannon and Trump are out there fear-mongering and creating fantasies.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Rambler123 View Post
Trump isn't fit to tie Obama's shoes.

That said, there's really no point to him campaigning against Trump. Anyone who is not a cultist or who hasn't been living under a rock for the past few decades knows Trump is an insane scumbag liar who isn't fit to run a lemonade stand. Not one Trumper who licks his boots today would be stupid enough to trust Trump with their money, house, or wife, but they expect us to believe he can be trusted to run the nation! The facts would disagree, but righties don't care about facts.

So, in the end, Obama probably shouldn't bother. Him being there will just trigger the right-wing loons who can't stand the notion of a black man in the White House, and everybody else with an IQ above their shoe size is already going to vote against Trump.
Got nothin huh? It happens.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by Tokinouta View Post
Never have, here's your fact check. Nobody is perfect, not Trump or Obama.

Obama didn't do that at the time. He was a bit late. Priorities I guess, which all presidents have, it's not as simple as you think.



Plus, the relationship between the United States and Russia is multifaceted and often intensely complicated:

Obama scaled back missile defense plans in Europe to placate Moscow.

Obama wanted Russia to play a role in the international agreement under which Iran agreed to restrict its nuclear program — and Putin went along.

Obama spent the end of his presidency trying to bring Russia into a multilateral agreement to end the Syrian civil war, but Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov ultimately never committed.

So Obama's team had to manage many spinning plates in addition to the active measures campaign it detected by the middle of 2016.

One question Obama may address in his book is why he calibrated his choices in the way he did — whether he looked the other way on election interference to keep open other options elsewhere.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/58761...erence-in-2016

There's no way to know what difference it might have made for U.S. officials to have confirmed and condemned the Russian interference in real time.


Obama administration officials have said they worried about appearing to put their thumb on the scales for Clinton. Combined with Obama's belief that Clinton would win, their political calculus appears to have boiled down to: Let's ride this out.
Hey look, another disingenuous attempt to refute the truth. Obama did sanction Russia, no amount of denial on your part is going to change history.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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Default Barack Obama: Trump is 'capitalizing on resentment'

Obama is right!

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Former President Barack Obama said President Donald Trump is "capitalizing on resentment that politicians have been fanning for years," a preview of Obama's message for the fall's midterms and the most pointed rebuke to date of his successor in the White House.


Obama stepped back into the political fray Friday, delivering a speech at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, where he said the status quo is pushing back following a period of progress. One theme of Obama's speech is how the history of the United States has always been progress and "backlash to progress," and the former President argued the country is currently in one of those backlash moments.

Barack Obama: Trump is 'capitalizing on resentment'
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:16 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
After the election and after he told his staff to stand down....after he knew they were messing with our election.....you deal with it...why did he tell his staff to stand down? Why did he not kick the Russian our prior to the election?


He failed, even though he did something after the election....
Are you being thick or do you really believe everything you type?

Because you’re desperately trying to create a false equivalency that “sanctions” are equal to “no sanctions”.

Just because he didn’t take further action doesn’t mean he didn’t take any at all.
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