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Its pretty easy for a person or trust to own a full auto AK. You can get one cheaper than a price of a new car. Just fill out both sides of two copies of a Form 4 which take about 10 minutes to complete and send $200 to the ATF.
You just said that it's "pretty easy" then you explained that it's cheaper than the price of a new car... not many people have the disposable cash laying around to legally purchase a full auto AK which would land firmly in the $15K - $20K range for a single rifle. It takes about "10 minutes" to fill out the form and then you wait 6 months for the tax stamp to come back assuming that you pass the extensive background check, finger print search and assuming you can find someone who'll sell you a legal to transfer full auto rifle built before 1986. You're clueless.
The govt was not out of control tyrannical at the time of the founding fathers either...
Nor could the founding fathers foresee a time when govt would disguise tyranny under protecting health/safety, in order to fool the people.
Point is, the Govt NEEDS to fear the people and their capability to some degree, as to prevent all out tyranny.
Seriously ask yourself, what would the chances be today if the people needed to remove this govt from power?...would they last 5 minutes against the military or police? LOL
Seriously ask yourself, what would the chances be if the people needed to remove their govt from power?...would a bunch of Virginian farmers with muskets last 5 minutes against the military might of the British Empire? LOL
Seriously ask yourself, what would the chances be if the people needed to remove their govt from power?...would a bunch of Virginian farmers with muskets last 5 minutes against the military might of the British Empire? LOL
That's extremely lame, comparing armed people to an army of 1775 to armed people to an army of 2018. Heck, I can even understand the reasoning back in 1775, but nowadays it's a joke. An armed rebellion now would stand precisely ZERO chance against an army, navy and air force with tanks, bazookas, machine guns, fighter jets, bombers, and so on. It's so ridiculous seeing people make that argument it's really kinda sad they actually believe it.
That's extremely lame, comparing armed people to an army of 1775 to armed people to an army of 2018. Heck, I can even understand the reasoning back in 1775, but nowadays it's a joke. An armed rebellion now would stand precisely ZERO chance against an army, navy and air force with tanks, bazookas, machine guns, fighter jets, bombers, and so on. It's so ridiculous seeing people make that argument it's really kinda sad they actually believe it.
Are you in support of making tanks, bazookas, machine guns, fighter jets and bombers available to civilians? If not, what are you talking about?
It's ridiculous to believe wars can be won by simply comparing firepower. Too many people made that mistakes and too many died for it.
Its pretty easy for a person or trust to own a full auto AK. You can get one cheaper than a price of a new car. Just fill out both sides of two copies of a Form 4 which take about 10 minutes to complete and send $200 to the ATF.
My reply was towards this :
"Originally Posted by rstevens62 Even full autos are not THAT tightly regulated."
Compared to buying a semi auto AR on the secondary market , it is absolutely much more tightly regulated. Not to mention forking over $17,900 for the Norinco I just looked up on Gunbroker. And in the end , it is registered with the Federal Govt. The price alone helps regulate the sales of them.
Are you in support of making tanks, bazookas, machine guns, fighter jets and bombers available to civilians? If not, what are you talking about?
No, obviously I'm not. And even if they were available to citizens, so few would be able to buy such things it would be pointless.
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It's ridiculous to believe wars can be won by simply comparing firepower. Too many people made that mistakes and too many died for it.
That argument cuts both ways. If that's the case then you could also say a completely unarmed populace could defeat a tyrannical government. In fact, that's precisely what happened in 1989.
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