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Old 09-13-2018, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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We were in NOLA for a 5th anniversary Katrina event. A relative was involved.

We drove to area that flooded due to levee failure. There were a few finished houses and some under construction.

The people hired by Pitt to do the design and construction are at fault, IMO.

The workers do not decide what materials will be used, so it matters not if they were legal or illegal.

The houses were like the ones they were replacing. Not large. But it was fairly close to town. IDK about NO land prices. A friend has a B&B on St Charles. I do know what she paid and what she has in it. Using that as a guide, 260 is way too high for softwood framed houses on land that will flood.
The homes were more costly due to the emphasis on well- intended “green” technologies. Minimally, the glass- infused wood products used to construct these homes could not withstand the extensive moisture that engulfs NOLA.

Pitt’s Foundation sued the manufacturer. Other suits followed. The wood products would not hold paint and warped in areas with nowhere near as humid as NOLA. The manufacturer folded.

Defective product, not workers, appears to be the primary cause of the problems.
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Old 09-13-2018, 07:55 AM
 
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The phony homes he built that are falling apart are equal to his phony caring and political correctness.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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I know of someone here that bought a home that had that happen. It was a problem with the heating/cooling system.

It was human error.

And -- you know in the south they hate those darn regulations. They get in the way of folks' freedom don't you know.
It's sad to watch you try to bootstrap New Orleans = All of the South so you can try to turn this political by extrapolating a republican south onto a democratic New Orleans.

Can we just set politics aside (or at least not infuse them into everything) and have a reasonable discussion about what went wrong here?
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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The homes were more costly due to the emphasis on well- intended “green” technologies. Minimally, the glass- infused wood products used to construct these homes could not withstand the extensive moisture that engulfs NOLA.

Pitt’s Foundation sued the manufacturer. Other suits followed. The wood products would not hold paint and warped in areas with nowhere near as humid as NOLA. The manufacturer folded.

Defective product, not workers, appears to be the primary cause of the problems.
So was this the siding and dry wall?
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:34 AM
 
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Saw a photo of a deck that was completely rotted.

This is going to be a setback for green products and sustainable building materials.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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Reportedly the homes in the 9th District of NOLA cost $150,000 to build, attributed to the emphasis on “ green” materials.

Homes were built using special wood products manufactured by TimberSIL Treatment Technologies out of Greenville, SC. The glass- infused wood products were advertised as free from many toxic ingredients. The wood products were not however able to withstand the extreme moisture that engulfs NOLA.

The Make It Right Foundation sued.

Other suits followed. The structures built with this product would not hold paint and warped in other areas , not affiliated with this foundation.

The CEO sued employees and investors. A judge removed the CEO. The company folded.

Distressed assets were acquired by a third party.
Thanks for the good information.

This is one of the challenges for people that feel strongly about green or other issues. There is always someone out there angling to make a buck by slapping on a label like "green" or lying about "Made in USA" or a host of bad product stories we've all heard about things coming here from China including fiberboard, dogfood etc.

Mr. Pitt & friends likely learned a good lesson here that it's great to have values and support whatever they may be with your wallet but to be wary and not just blinded by the sales story.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:38 AM
 
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Saw a photo of a deck that was completely rotted.

This is going to be a setback for green products and sustainable building materials.
I would think that those making such products WELL will do just fine as they'll have the track-record to point to.

This has happened to "non-green" building materials as well, I don't know if it will turn people off to the entire concept, I'd certainly hope not.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:45 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Reportedly the homes in the 9th District of NOLA cost $150,000 to build, attributed to the emphasis on “ green” materials.

Homes were built using special wood products manufactured by TimberSIL Treatment Technologies out of Greenville, SC. The glass- infused wood products were advertised as free from many toxic ingredients. The wood products were not however able to withstand the extreme moisture that engulfs NOLA.

The Make It Right Foundation sued.

Other suits followed. The structures built with this product would not hold paint and warped in other areas , not affiliated with this foundation.

The CEO sued employees and investors. A judge removed the CEO. The company folded.

Distressed assets were acquired by a third party.
interesting. i can't find a link indicating the company folded, do you have one?

Timber Treatment Technologies Wood Product TimberSIL Alleged Defective in Investigation | Class Actions Reporter
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Brad Pitt should show up with his overalls and tool belt and fix all the homes himself .
It would be a great PR move .
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So I went to

How We Build - Make It RightMake It Right

to see how the homes were built.

Aside from the fact that they are built on ground destined to be flooded periodically and washed away at some point, the building products and processes seemed to make sense.

Either they didn't know what they were talking about, which judging from the number of flat roofs seems quite possible, or they weren't built according to their specs or local building codes.

In any case, they need to buy back the homes, bulldoze them to the ground and let the lots be used as playgrounds, parks, and gardens until the next hurricane wipes it all out again.



Code within those flood prone areas, should be stilt built up higher than the flood, with a mandatory lifeboat!
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