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Old 09-23-2018, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Entirely irrelevant to voting and patriotism.
No it isn't. Everyone who is a young earth creationist cannot understand the way the world works accurately. That's means they're automatically uninformed voters, and incapable of making certain decisions sensibly that depend on certain types of understanding. I don't think any of them should be voting. If they were a little more understanding of how to be a little more patriotic, they'd acknowledge their limitations and not vote, and let the people who are more mentally equipped to understand the wider world's votes count for more instead.

Even in ways not related to science, their irrational thought processes are probably going to echo and corrupt their thought processes there too.

 
Old 09-23-2018, 08:19 PM
 
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No it isn't. Everyone who is a young earth creationist cannot understand the way the world works accurately. That's means they're automatically uninformed voters, and incapable of making certain decisions sensibly that depend on certain types of understanding. I don't think any of them should be voting. If they were a little more understanding of how to be a little more patriotic, they'd acknowledge their limitations and not vote, and let the people who are more mentally equipped to understand the wider world's votes count for more instead.

Even in ways not related to science, their irrational thought processes are probably going to echo and corrupt their thought processes there too.
Your premise is false. How life got here is not necessarily relevant to understanding how the world works accurately. Some of the best scientific minds were Christians. You are a long way from bridging the gap to patriotism and voting. A real patriot would respect a country's traditions and the 1st amendment.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Your premise is false. How life got here is not necessarily relevant to understanding how the world works accurately. Some of the best scientific minds were Christians. You are a long way from bridging the gap to patriotism and voting. A real patriot would respect a country's traditions and the 1st amendment.
I agree that some of the best scientific minds were Christians. I'm not saying Christians shouldn't vote. I'm saying young earth creationists shouldn't vote. Plenty of Christians believe Earth is billions of years old.

Everyone who believes earth is billions of years old has shown that they don't understand reality. That's probably going to corrupt their thought process in other ways too. I don't trust them to be able to think rationally.

I don't know what respecting our countries traditions or the first amendment has to do with anything. I only want them not to vote due to their own personal choices not to.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 08:58 PM
 
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I agree that some of the best scientific minds were Christians. I'm not saying Christians shouldn't vote. I'm saying young earth creationists shouldn't vote. Plenty of Christians believe Earth is billions of years old.

Everyone who believes earth is billions of years old has shown that they don't understand reality. That's probably going to corrupt their thought process in other ways too. I don't trust them to be able to think rationally.

I don't know what respecting our countries traditions or the first amendment has to do with anything. I only want them not to vote due to their own personal choices not to.
Whether or not someone is a young earth creationist is about the least of my concern regarding voting. You are making a huge leap in reasoning and relevancy. Some who believes in evolution is just as likely to have a corrupt thought process as one who does not believe in evolution.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 09:10 PM
 
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Keep moving those goalposts bud, you’re aren’t helping prove your point; not that you had one to begin with.

Copy and paste exists for a reason, how about quoting me directly instead of bs’ing the truth?

Here’s what I said, which was supported by the included link


https://www.adl.org/resources/report...states-in-2017
We wouldn't though, since we'd have all those acts of islamic terror, which is nearly all of them. There are only a few terrorist incidents that haven't been islamic terror.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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If you have to take an oath to do your job, you probably shouldn't be given the job.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 10:36 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6IRxpjEZveQ
 
Old 09-23-2018, 10:52 PM
 
Location: AZ
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We wouldn't though, since we'd have all those acts of islamic terror, which is nearly all of them. There are only a few terrorist incidents that haven't been islamic terror.
What are you even going on about?

You cut this part out of my response:

“Unlike 2016, a year dominated by the Pulse nightclub shootings in Orlando, Florida, committed by an Islamic extremist, a majority of the 2017 murders were committed by right-wing extremists, primarily white supremacists, as has typically been the case most years.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 11:30 PM
 
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What are you even going on about?

You cut this part out of my response:

“Unlike 2016, a year dominated by the Pulse nightclub shootings in Orlando, Florida, committed by an Islamic extremist, a majority of the 2017 murders were committed by right-wing extremists, primarily white supremacists, as has typically been the case most years.
I have no idea what that quote even refers to. It certainly doesn't refer to homicides, gun homicides, or even mass shootings.

Are there any examples of these murders committed by "white supremacists"? Dylan Roof....and who else, exactly??
 
Old 09-23-2018, 11:47 PM
 
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I have no idea what that quote even refers to. It certainly doesn't refer to homicides, gun homicides, or even mass shootings.

Are there any examples of these murders committed by "white supremacists"? Dylan Roof....and who else, exactly??
I know what a jihadist is but what is a "white supremacist"? James Fields in Charlottesville maybe? So we got 2 suspects.
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