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Old 09-27-2018, 05:49 AM
 
Location: England
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I agree with phantompilot. These are two totally innocent Russian tourists, who flew all the way from Russia to see a church in Salisbury.

They caught the train from London, and spent time admiring the sights, and going to see the church steeple.

One of them knew how high it was to the exact foot. They were so impressed, they went two days to see it.

Immediately after visiting this world famous church, they flew home to Russia. They are obviously innocent of any crime. Any traces of nerve agent found at their hotel is a plant by British Intelligence!!!!
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Old 09-27-2018, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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I'd trust a North Korean state-run news agency before I trust the British press. I don't believe it either. Trump needs to drop kick May and the British Government.
Wow.
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Old 09-27-2018, 06:32 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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I agree with phantompilot. These are two totally innocent Russian tourists, who flew all the way from Russia to see a church in Salisbury.

They caught the train from London, and spent time admiring the sights, and going to see the church steeple.

One of them knew how high it was to the exact foot. They were so impressed, they went two days to see it.

Immediately after visiting this world famous church, they flew home to Russia. They are obviously innocent of any crime. Any traces of nerve agent found at their hotel is a plant by British Intelligence!!!!


Thanks Dave - that's good enough for me.

They went to see the world famous Salisbury Cathedral which is 224 feet (68 m) long with a Tower height of 225 feet (69 m) (without spire).

Other interesting locations include the famous Salisbury bus station and train station, the magnificent shopping centre which is home to a Tesco Extra (which is open 24 hours a day) and a Sainbury's, as well as the now famous Zizzi Pizza Restaurant. The town is also home to a Pizza Express, McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Subway, Greggs, Costa Coffee, Starbucks, Caffè Nero etc and numerous local takeaways including fish and chip shops, chinese takeaways, indian takeaways and a kebab shop which is open until midnight in this city that never sleeps.

Also why not check out the SPAR Euro Garage New Sarum which is open 24 hours a day, and lets not forget the nearby Roadchef Rownhams Motoway Services on the M27 between Junctions 3 and 4 North and Southbound, and which even has a Days Inn Hotel.

If you have time don't forget to check out the house where British Prime Minister Sir Edward Heath once lived as well as the local library and Odeon Cinema that frequently shows more than one film. There is also the impresssive Five Rivers Leisure Centre in Salisbury which even has a swimming pooland a gym. Indeed what more could you want after travelling all the way from Moscow.

Yes it's all happening in Salisbury, the number one visitor attraction in the UK, so good you can't fit everything in on just the one day, which is why these two Russian gentlemen came back for a second visit the next day and then decided to go to the area that the Skripals lived to check out the house of a famous Russian GRU double agent.

As for the Novichok traces found in their bedroom, that wasn't Novichok it was curry sauce from the takeaway they purchased the previous day, so that everything cleared up.

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Old 09-27-2018, 07:32 AM
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I'd trust a North Korean state-run news agency before I trust the British press. I don't believe it either. Trump needs to drop kick May and the British Government.
I suggest you make North Korea your allies instead of the UK if that is how you think. Perhaps they can send their young servicemen to die and to be maimed in US led wars.

The US probably knows the truth already given the number of spy bases it has in the UK.

As for Sergei Skripal he was part of the US Illegals Spy swaps.

Illegals Program - Wikipedia

Having botched the Skripal murder, the Russians did manage to strangle to death Nikolai Glushkov in his London home in March 2018.

Russian exile Nikolai Glushkov found dead at his London home | The Guardian

From Russia With Blood: 14 Suspected Hits On British Soil - Buzzfeed

Sergei Skripal and the 14 deaths under scrutiny - BBC News

No doubt the Russians ae keen to kill others in the UK such as Igor Sutyagin.

Igor Sutyagin - Wikipedia

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Old 09-27-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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Thanks Dave - that's good enough for me.

They went to see the world famous Salisbury Cathedral which is 224 feet (68 m) long with a Tower height of 225 feet (69 m) (without spire).

Other interesting locations include the famous Salisbury bus station and train station, the magnificent shopping centre which is home to a Tesco Extra (which is open 24 hours a day) and a Sainbury's, as well as the now famous Zizzi Pizza Restaurant. The town is also home to a Pizza Express, McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Subway, Greggs, Costa Coffee, Starbucks, Caffè Nero etc and numerous local takeaways including fish and chip shops, chinese takeaways, indian takeaways and a kebab shop which is open until midnight in this city that never sleeps.

Also why not check out the SPAR Euro Garage New Sarum which is open 24 hours a day, and lets not forget the nearby Roadchef Rownhams Motoway Services on the M27 between Junctions 3 and 4 North and Southbound, and which even has a Days Inn Hotel.

If you have time don't forget to check out the house where British Prime Minister Sir Edward Heath once lived as well as the local library and Odeon Cinema that frequently shows more than one film. There is also the impresssive Five Rivers Leisure Centre in Salisbury which even has a swimming pooland a gym. Indeed what more could you want after travelling all the way from Moscow.

Yes it's all happening in Salisbury, the number one visitor attraction in the UK, so good you can't fit everything in on just the one day, which is why these two Russian gentlemen came back for a second visit the next day and then decided to go to the area that the Skripals lived to check out the house of a famous Russian GRU double agent.

As for the Novichok traces found in their bedroom, that wasn't Novichok it was curry sauce from the takeaway they purchased the previous day, so that everything cleared up.
I imagine they were the ONLY Russians who cared enough about church architecture to go to Salisbury for that visit...
Bogus...
Bogus...
Bogus...
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Old 09-27-2018, 09:14 AM
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I imagine they were the ONLY Russians who cared enough about church architecture to go to Salisbury for that visit...
Bogus...
Bogus...
Bogus...


LOL - they went past St Paul's Cathedral and Westminster Abbey on their way to the station in order to get to Salisbury.

The police and security services went through over 11,000 hours of CCTV footage from when they got off the plane at Gatwick.

They stayed in the East End of London, which is strange given they wanted to visit Salisbury to the West and CCTV picked the up outside the Skripals street just before the poisoning attack. They had been to Salisbury the day before as well on what police beieve was a reconnaissance mission.

As for the Cathedral there is no CCTV of them going anywhere near the Cathedral.

Colonel Anatoliy Chepiga a GRU officer was there with his GRU accomplice in order to poison former GRU Colonel Sergei Skripal, and the passport photographs show the same man. I should imagine this will ber confirmed by UK Authorities in the future and that the intelligene services already know.

In terms of Bellingcat, it is run by a few individuals who have investigated a number of investigations into war and the criminal underground. Like other sites such as wikileaks it operates in a fairly clandestine way, and the site founder Eliot Higgens has received the Hanns Joachim Friedrichs Award, a German award for excellence in journalism.

Bellingcat - Wikipedia

The name Belling Cat comes from the well known medieval fable about mice who discuss how to make a cat harmless. One suggests hooking a bell around his neck, and all the mice support the idea but none is willing to do it.

Belling the Cat - Wikipedia

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Old 09-27-2018, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Russia gave this person to them, they were not a Russian spy any longer. They were in fact citizens, and the daughter-and other people they sickened were innocents by any definition. I like how you then try and deflect to other countries and change the topic. Its much more entertaining then the other person here trying to gaslight and deny facts.
If you sign up to be a spy, in ANY country, and decide on treason and become a double agent, you should be well aware that it carries the death penalty. If Skripal didn't want to be in this business, he should've never signed up to be a spy. Even in Russia, you willingly volunteer for such a position and willingly accept all the risks and forfeit your rights. As a spy, you should also be well aware that the country you betrayed would come looking and would never just 'give up', just ask Mr. Snowden (who wasn't even a spy and is not a double agent).
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Old 09-27-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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The Prime Minister Theresa May has already stated publically and before Parliament that UK Intelligence and Security Services had identified both men as belonging to the Russian Intelligence Service known as the GRU.

And when will you retract your false claim about passports having phone numbers on them?
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Old 09-28-2018, 05:29 AM
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And when will you retract your false claim about passports having phone numbers on them?
What are you going on about.

Passports don't have phone numbers they have passport numbers on them, in the case the geniuses at the Russian Passport office gave out consecutive passport numbers to spies. Which made checking fairly easy, and this was coupled with other pictures and information regarding Russian Military Colleges and Russian Special Forces (the Spetsnaz) which are part of the GRU which is 'The Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation'.

'We got really lucky': how novichok suspects' identities were revealed - The Guardian

Salisbury poisoning suspect: what we know about GRU Colonel Anatoliy Chepiga named over Novichok attack - inews

Special Forces of the Main Directorate of the General Staff - Wikipedia

The UK Home Office is yet to comment, however Col Chepiga’s identity is understood to be undisputed. Scotland Yard's Counter Terrorism Command (SO15) and the Security Service (MI5) will now be further investigating this evidence.

I can get my UK passport out and it has a unique number passport number which I would quote in any dealings with the passport office, indeed all passports have a unique number so they can be linked back to other documents relating to your passport application and other details, this is nothing to do with a phone number.

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Old 09-28-2018, 08:34 AM
 
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I never realized that Russian trolls flew F-4 Phantoms.

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