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Old 09-26-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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Yes, we have gotten good economic numbers ever since we elected a Republican Congress in 2010. As a reminder, the Dow was at 18,304 on the day Trump was elected and now over 26,000.

Gorsuch and Kavanaugh!

Ahh so now you move the goalposts, and its about congress. But you still ignore the massive deficits voted by those congresses. Not only can you not have it both ways on this, but both of the ways you try and claim its good you do so by ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room.


And Obama did even better then Trump on the DOW. Given its flatlined that especially true....but again..its not about Trump according to you. Its congress! So im not sure why you brought Obama in.


And worse is that when we have another recession, you will probably be one of the people who fights against deficit spending the one time its useful.


Gorsuch I will give you. He is a excellent choice for conservatives, although he may surprise you folks occasionally. But Kavanaugh? Nah. thats turned into a swamp. Hes a horrible choice, you could easily pick another conservative pick without all the collateral damage Kavanaugh is going to do. Even worse is that its probable Kavanaugh wont survive the vote. Thus all of this will have been for nothing.
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Old 09-26-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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Ahh so now you move the goalposts, and its about congress. But you still ignore the massive deficits voted by those congresses. Not only can you not have it both ways on this, but both of the ways you try and claim its good you do so by ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room.


And worse is that when we have another recession, you will probably be one of the people who fights against deficit spending the one time its useful.


Gorsuch I will give you. He is a excellent choice for conservatives, although he may surprise you folks occasionally. But Kavanaugh? Nah. thats turned into a swamp. Hes a horrible choice, you could easily pick another conservative pick without all the collateral damage Kavanaugh is going to do. Even worse is that its probable Kavanaugh wont survive the vote. Thus all of this will have been for nothing.
Gorsuch? Really? The guy that thought a trucker should freeze to death to save the inventory he was hauling?

Neil Gorsuch’s arrogant “frozen trucker” opinion shows he wants to be like Scalia.

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Old 09-26-2018, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Ahh so now you move the goalposts, and its about congress. But you still ignore the massive deficits voted by those congresses. Not only can you not have it both ways on this, but both of the ways you try and claim its good you do so by ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room.


And Obama did even better then Trump on the DOW. Given its flatlined that especially true....but again..its not about Trump according to you. Its congress! So im not sure why you brought Obama in.


And worse is that when we have another recession, you will probably be one of the people who fights against deficit spending the one time its useful.


Gorsuch I will give you. He is a excellent choice for conservatives, although he may surprise you folks occasionally. But Kavanaugh? Nah. thats turned into a swamp. Hes a horrible choice, you could easily pick another conservative pick without all the collateral damage Kavanaugh is going to do. Even worse is that its probable Kavanaugh wont survive the vote. Thus all of this will have been for nothing.
It's always been about the Congress....Nancy crashed the economy in 2008 and the Republicans fixed it after they were elected to lead the country in 2010.

If you take what the market did on the day after all Presidential elections, the worst day was when Obama was elected in 2008 and second worst day was when he was re-elected in 2012 but the Republican Congress saved his butt and he became a better President with Republicans controlling the government....there's no doubting that. The biggest jump on the day after a Presidential election was the day after trump was elected and the second biggest jump will be the day after he is re-elected in 2020.

Kavanaugh is a great choice but how that plays out will depend on his hearing Thursday and the credibility of his accuser.
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Old 09-26-2018, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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China? How dumb does this guy think Americans are? When he thought Hillary was going to win, he started talking about rigged elections. Then he won, so he actually fought the idea that the Russians interfered. Now, he's terrified of a blue wave, so he's trying to make it look like the Dems will win because China interfered. This man just cannot act like a normal adult professional--nevermind president.

If he was a CEO of a company, he would have been fired long ago. He is an idiot. This is not 'smart like a fox' -- this is 'stupid is as stupid does.' The guy cannot seem to man up and stop blaming others or making excuses for everything. Totally irresponsible jerk.
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Old 09-26-2018, 06:04 PM
 
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It's always been about the Congress....Nancy crashed the economy in 2008 and the Republicans fixed it after they were elected to lead the country in 2010.
So if its always about congress...why do you then go on about Obama and Trump n this next part? Do you comprehend the cognitive dissonance you are showing here?

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If you take what the market did on the day after all Presidential elections, the worst day was when Obama was elected in 2008 and second worst day was when he was re-elected in 2012 but the Republican Congress saved his butt and he became a better President with Republicans controlling the government....there's no doubting that. The biggest jump on the day after a Presidential election was the day after trump was elected and the second biggest jump will be the day after he is re-elected in 2020.
And if you think Trump is winning in 2020 you are really missing reality. But then given how you also seem to believe the dow is all about congress, but then its also abut Trump or Obama....well....
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Kavanaugh is a great choice but how that plays out will depend on his hearing Thursday and the credibility of his accuser.
You mean Ford? Not all the other accusers? Or do you include the 4 sworn statements from people backing up Ford? What about the folks who backed up Kavanaugh that are now asking for a investigation?

And how does Kavanaugh have any credibility? He literally released a calendar for when he was younger that talks about getting brewskis? (Cause you arent skiing in july). You know....when he was 17 and the drinking age was 21. And who claimed he was a virgin til late in college....only to have his college room mate call him out for being a liar. Additionally Kavanaugh has straight up lied about a lot of things. And certainly hidden where the 200K came out that paid off his sports debts-which he claimed were for tickets to games. etc etc. The list goes on.

I like how avenattis client who accused Kavanaugh of some truly despicable things mentioned the beach party thing. Her sworn statement is dated to right before Kavanaugh released his calendar....which listed that party.

Nah, theres way too many questions here. They should have cut him and picked another candidate instead of wasting all this time and political capital. There are other choices that are just as good for conservatives.
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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China, if you're listening, I hope you find a way to help the Democrats win the 2020 election, both presidential and congress. That may be the only way for Republicans to take cyber warfare and election interference seriously.
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