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Why do people have negative perceptions of people with tattoos? And what might your willingness to remove your tattoo say about you as a person?
But he didn't just remove it. He deceived her family in to thinking he was something he was not. That is a whole 'nother league of messed up, I'd be furious at him and disappointed at her in the same situation as her family. Did he not have the testicular fortitude to man up, but runs around in some insane pantomime to try to gain approval? She let this happen, or promoted it. What other deceptions is he playing in regards to their daughter? Or them? Hey he's your friend, or deceptions he's playing on you?
Seriously that's some hokey teen BS. What does that say about him as a person? Further you seem to approve, so what does that say about you? You approve of fake?
Further willingness isn't important. Successful relationships are based on what is, not what may be. Sure people get involved with people that they think they can polish into what they want and they're always disappointed. Willingness to alter yourself for your partner? Like say getting a tattoo? How about a couple of DD implants? Some filler and Lipo? What does that say about someone's self esteem that they're so desperate for attention they'll alter their physical being to meet that other persons expectation? There's a pretty good saying, you can't expect someone else to love you, unless you love yourself. And there's more, what does it say about that other person that they want their prospective partner to alter their physicality to meet expectations? If it wasn't her, and she was doing it for her family, we know where he stands, which is the back of the family line, that must be nice to know, or maybe he didn't think it through enough to reach this conclusion, and the tattooed are apparently the stupid ones.
Seriously man that whole thing is so messed up it's not funny and you're thinking it's something special, which it is if you're referring to short bus special, but it ain't Cinderella special. I see dangerous times ahead for that guy, and girl.
But he didn't just remove it. He deceived her family in to thinking he was something he was not. That is a whole 'nother league of messed up, I'd be furious at him and disappointed at her in the same situation as her family. Did he not have the testicular fortitude to man up, but runs around in some insane pantomime to try to gain approval? She let this happen, or promoted it. What other deceptions is he playing in regards to their daughter? Or them? Hey he's your friend, or deceptions he's playing on you?
He loved her enough to do anything to keep her. And he respected her family enough to do what they expected of him if he was going to marry their baby girl. Instead of doing the easy thing, and demanding that they just accept him as he is.
That says a lot more about his character than trying to force himself on them, and making her choose between him and her family.
Just because he did it without their knowing, doesn't change his motivations, or what was in his heart. He didn't want to create drama where it wasn't needed.
You don't even believe this crap. Because you know that some tattoos really would be a deal-breaker.
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SOME being the keyword, If you said it 100 posts ago, then we wouldn't have this discussion.
Maybe you are the one who should be reminded that everybody is different, every tattoo is different. Every reason for getting a tattoo is different. Quit painting the entire group of people with one broad brush.
You even said it, People in Oklahoma might not think the same as people in California, so why bother keep on arguing?
Last edited by lilyflower3191981; 10-13-2018 at 05:14 PM..
He loved her enough to do anything to keep her. And he respected her family enough to do what they expected of him if he was going to marry their baby girl. Instead of doing the easy thing, and demanding that they just accept him as he is.
That says a lot more about his character than trying to force himself on them, and making her choose between him and her family.
Just because he did it without their knowing, doesn't change his motivations, or what was in his heart. He didn't want to create drama where it wasn't needed.
They have been married almost 20 years now.
well, good for them. But nothing changes the fact that many other families might not think the same as this woman's family does. If other families do not agree with this kind of logic, it doesn't mean that other families are in denial.
SAME man with the tattoo = unacceptable; SAME man without the tattoo = acceptable (honestly speaking, I don't know any families think this way.) But hey, good for them, we are all different. They certainly don't bother me, just don't assume I have to think exactly the same as they do.
Hey, if this is the way they choose to live their lives, go for it. Don't assume the rest of the world would choose to live this way. Most importantly, if we don't want to live like this, don't accuse us for being in denial. That is all we can ask for. All these being said, by no means am I suggesting I am better than them, or they are better than me, I am only suggesting we are all different.
In my world, I don't know anybody who believe a small harmless tattoo (especially a small memorial tattoo)= a deal breaker (assume the tattoo your friend chose to remove is not offensive.) However, if your friend removed a tattoo of his ex wife or girlfriend, then I could understand. lol
People are not offended because you don't like tattoos, I don't like tattoos myself; People are not offended that you pointed out there is still a stigma associated with tattoo; SOME people here are simply defending themselves by telling you that their decision for getting their tattoo is not a stupid decision. It worked for them and they liked it. SOME people are simply defending themselves by telling you that there are people certainly fit the negative stereotype, a lot of people with tattoos do not fit that stereotype. Quit painting the entire group of people with one broad brush. I don't think their posts are unreasonable, do you? Plus, (Who are you to tell them that they are wrong?) You know the posters better than they know themselves?
Last edited by lilyflower3191981; 10-13-2018 at 05:52 PM..
SOME being the keyword, If you said it 100 posts ago, then we wouldn't have this discussion.
My position, "Getting a tattoo is a bad idea."
Your position, "Getting a tattoo is only a bad idea if people can see it."
I'll concede that your position is probably more-true. But I don't think mine is wrong.
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Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981
SAME man with the tattoo = unacceptable; SAME man without the tattoo = acceptable (honestly speaking, I don't know any families think this way.)
You know that people think that way. And you know that many employers think that way as well. You continue to claim that everyone else is in denial, but maybe it is you?
Last edited by Redshadowz; 10-14-2018 at 08:09 AM..
You know that people think that way. And you know that many employers think that way as well. You continue to claim that everyone else is in denial, but maybe it is you?
Arguing with you is pointless.
Just remember this:
People are not offended because you don't like tattoos, I don't like tattoos myself; People are not offended that you pointed out there is still a stigma associated with tattoo; SOME people here are simply defending themselves by telling you that their decision for getting their tattoo is not a stupid decision. It worked for them and they liked it. SOME people are simply defending themselves by telling you that there are people certainly fit the negative stereotype, a lot of people with tattoos do not fit that stereotype. Quit painting the entire group of people with one broad brush. I don't think their posts are unreasonable, do you? Plus, (Who are you to tell them that they are wrong?) You know the posters better than they know themselves?
He loved her enough to do anything to keep her. And he respected her family enough to do what they expected of him if he was going to marry their baby girl. Instead of doing the easy thing, and demanding that they just accept him as he is.
That says a lot more about his character than trying to force himself on them, and making her choose between him and her family.
Just because he did it without their knowing, doesn't change his motivations, or what was in his heart. He didn't want to create drama where it wasn't needed.
They have been married almost 20 years now.
Wait, this girl had to make the choice between her family & her fiancee because he had a tattoo?? Seriously?? Was the tattoo on his face?
"New PJW video implying that tattoos are for stupid people"
Isn't that like fat shamming or something? Who really cares? I highly doubt tattooed people are stupid, that's ridiculous. I don't think much about them probably because I don't see them much. Folks in my neighborhood and the surrounding area aren't inked up. I don't know why, nor do I really care. I don't want one, I don't find them attractive, not to mention I'd get bored with it. But, so what.
"New PJW video implying that tattoos are for stupid people"
Isn't that like fat shamming or something? Who really cares? I highly doubt tattooed people are stupid, that's ridiculous. I don't think much about them probably because I don't see them much. Folks in my neighborhood and the surrounding area aren't inked up. I don't know why, nor do I really care. I don't want one, I don't find them attractive, not to mention I'd get bored with it. But, so what.
Thanks for checking in with a paragraph on something you don't care about. I'm checking you off on the running tally I'm keeping. Let's see, elan is a "don't care." Okay, I've got you down. Any other subjects about which you don't care? It might save us both some time in the future.
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