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Old 10-18-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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I don't give a rat's a$$ if he was working for Wal-Mart. He is a Saudi that died in Turkey. Let Turkey and Saudi handle this. That is not our jurisdiction or our problem.

People die everyday in the Middle East and nobody gives a cr@p. Why is this guy so special?
He's so special because he was a journalist, critical of the Saudi leadership, who was murdered by a Saudi hit squad whose members have ties to the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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The US has always turned a blind eye to human rights abuses and even the funding of 9-11 by the Saudis. It's about business, oil for weapons...and hotels.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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He's so special because he was a journalist, critical of the Saudi leadership, who was murdered by a Saudi hit squad whose members have ties to the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.

so if he was a cook in Saudi would you be as "outrage"? meanwhile, people die in the middle east every day and you don't give a cr@p.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:45 PM
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He's so special because he was a journalist, critical of the Saudi leadership, who was murdered by a Saudi hit squad whose members have ties to the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.

He was also a support of the Muslim Brotherhood, and has terrorist links. I'm saying: good riddance. It's a shame the Saudis didn't do this cleaner.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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He's so special because he was a journalist, critical of the Saudi leadership, who was murdered by a Saudi hit squad whose members have ties to the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
technically he wasn't a journalist. He was an opinion writer. He was an Islamism Muslim Brotherhood guy.


He was critical of the Saudis not because he was a western minded fighter for democracy but because he wants a Muslim brotherhood extremist government to replace the royal family.




this is a case of one bad guy killing another bad guy.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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so if he was a cook in Saudi would you be as "outrage"? meanwhile, people die in the middle east every day and you don't give a cr@p.
No, though the cook would deserve better than this journalist received. People die every day all over the world. Usually, though, it's not at the hands of a hit squad, in a diplomatic facility, with the complicity of a government that finds the person inconvenient.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The left are such suckers that they'll get behind literally anything they're told to. This is a case in point.

Why anyone is calling this guy a "journalist" at all is beyond me. Writing OpEds for the WaPo, does not make you a journalists in the minds of most people.

Then, how do we know he's even dead? There's no body. How do we know he's not still in there? Or maybe he left through a different door?

Then we have the fact that this is/was a very bad person. A close friend of Osama Bin Laden's. A man who celebrated 9/11. A hard core, Muslim Brotherhood member. A man against the rights of women & gays. A man who was fine with child brides. Why was the WaPo giving him any run in their paper in the first place? Wtf kind of agenda are they pushing at the WaPo? How does this ideology jive with "liberal" ideology? They don't. They are completely contradictory.

Saudi Arabia hasn't admitted any fault, yet the left are being brainwashed to push for some sort of emotional, reactionary measure. What happened to the liberal ideology, that it's not our business to tell the rest of the world what to do, or to play policeman to the world? How the left has abandoned their core beliefs and principles so easily, is the more worrisome part of the Trump Admin. They've literally done a 180' ideologically over the past few years and are now against all the best things they once supported.

The Saudis are no choir boys of course, but it's counter-intellectual to think the Saudis ordered this alleged murder. They have a great relationship with the US, have accepted Israel as legitimate, are being asked to take a leadership role in the ME, are trying to diversify away from oil, into the United States, and they're on the verge of signing a massive arms deal to help ensure their own security. All of this, on the back of fighting a soft coup d'etat & setting up a younger, more modern thinking leader, who immediately changed the law to allow women to drive and other advancements.

Who stands to gain from this? The Iranians, the Turks & Palestine.

Who's pushing this narrative the hardest? It's John Brennan and the Obama, Muslim Brotherhood-loving, cash-to-Iran crew.

The only sane thing to do right now, if we do anything at all, is to gather all the evidence & understand what actually happened, rather than relying on the completely untrustworthy Turks & anonymous sources.
Interesting. You've changed your views regarding the Saudis since Obama was president. It almost sounds as if you are defending the them now.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...l#post31269109
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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No, though the cook would deserve better than this journalist received. People die every day all over the world. Usually, though, it's not at the hands of a hit squad, in a diplomatic facility, with the complicity of a government that finds the person inconvenient.

what? people die in the middle east just walking their dog and getting hit by the U.S. drone strikes or by extremist groups we aid to do our regime changes.


We have our own hit squad, it's call the CIA and we outsource most of that. Dude, do you live in a bubble?
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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yeah, let's go back to the Bush doctrine. Because our foreign policy went so well and it was sane and full of morality.


and Obama wasn't any better.
Bush wasn't a complete amoral... Trump takes the cake.. He'd protect Satan if it he was doing business deals with him
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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The US has always turned a blind eye to human rights abuses and even the funding of 9-11 by the Saudis. It's about business, oil for weapons...and hotels.
Plenty of republicans have come out saying we should sanction them....except the moron at the top
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