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Old 10-12-2018, 05:37 PM
 
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Legacy and history don't always correlate with the truth.

Obama may be remembered as such, but his actions are much different than what the media wants to lionize him as.
By who, the extreme right wing that will try to pick a needle from a haystack? Focus on the current corruption, you may get something accomplished.
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Old 10-12-2018, 05:43 PM
 
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I found the posts to be cut up into small scale analysis, and even if you disagree with premise of some, I think people who didn't know what was going on behind the scene in the Obama administration would learn something. I did too actually.

By the way, could you point out one of her posts that was misleading or incorrect, thanks

I could actually, for example the whole "citibank vetted his cabinet" stuff is all about his transition team talking about all of the candidates and using all of their resources both within and without the government to try and avoid anyone who has issues. One of his transition team members discussed this. Its not some grand scheme where citibank chooses people, its where someone on his team had contacts there and could get a heads up about any issues.


Or the didn't pass single payer even with this makeup-he had a slim majority for a VERY short period of time....and there was no way a couple of the Democrats would have voted for it. That is a insanely deceptive attempt to defame him.


etc etc. Basically its a bunch of poorly researched and written garbage thats trying to smear him with poor quality volume of arguments.
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I could actually, for example the whole "citibank vetted his cabinet" stuff is all about his transition team talking about all of the candidates and using all of their resources both within and without the government to try and avoid anyone who has issues. One of his transition team members discussed this. Its not some grand scheme where citibank chooses people, its where someone on his team had contacts there and could get a heads up about any issues.


Or the didn't pass single payer even with this makeup-he had a slim majority for a VERY short period of time....and there was no way a couple of the Democrats would have voted for it. That is a insanely deceptive attempt to defame him.


etc etc. Basically its a bunch of poorly researched and written garbage thats trying to smear him with poor quality volume of arguments.
1. What you’re describing is what happened in more colorful sugar coated terms. Saying someone had contacts with Citibank and Obama and his team chose to use them (this is right after the financial crisis, people on the left didn’t like the big for profit banks) is odd by itself. What does Citibank have to do with political leadership? And why did Obama follow up on these contacts, contacts that weren’t correlated with the job he had been voted into. I’m sure he knew plenty of people who work in the pizza business, is there a reason to go to them to help form his transition team? Or perhaps it had more to do with getting on their good side and winning their financial support (“I’m the only think standing between you and the pitchforks”)?
And besides the fact transition teams directly help form the cabinet, wasn’t there a list of ‘preferred’ candidates he was given by these same contacts who ended up on his cabinet (not all, but most).

2. Those posts about congressional makeup seemed to be more reflective of the Democratic Party at large on just Obama. They had a majority in both houses (call it what you want, that’s what it is) and they passed corporate healthcare that the heritage foundation supported instead of a non private insurance system that liberals had been fighting for since the 70s (it was the first time in a long time the democrats controlled all three houses of government and it was after a corporate lead collapse). Insurance companies, banking companies, they were all afraid of the backlash, and the democrats won and protected them instead of fighting for change. That tells you what a ‘left’ wing party the democrats are.

Again I think you’re being unreasonable when you’re calling this cited thread “garbage”.
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Imagine if this was passed under trump: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...Protection_Act

The reason Trump exists is because of the leaders who came before who normalized criminal activity.
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