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View Poll Results: Should we trust the people who wrote this "tipping point" and do everything they are recom
Yes 47 37.01%
No 80 62.99%
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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The science says the world has to not only stop increasing CO2 emissions, but the world has to also lower their present CO2 emissions

Global warming policy says the vast majority of countries can increase their CO2 emissions..which increases CO2 levels in the worlds atmosphere

Logic says....the world's authority on global warming that makes the policies....the UN/IPCC and the climate scientists that advise them on science and policy.....

...think increasing atmospheric CO2 is not dangerous....or they don't believe their own science
Why do your repeat the same lie over and over again? Nobody is saying the majority of countries can increase CO2 emissions.

Currently 195 countries are Members of the IPCC.

There are 195 countries in the world today. This total comprises 193 countries that are member states of the United Nations and 2 countries that are non-member observer states: the Holy See and the State of Palestine.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
The science says the world has to not only stop increasing CO2 emissions, but the world has to also lower their present CO2 emissions

Global warming policy says the vast majority of countries can increase their CO2 emissions..which increases CO2 levels in the worlds atmosphere

Logic says....the world's authority on global warming that makes the policies....the UN/IPCC and the climate scientists that advise them on science and policy.....

...think increasing atmospheric CO2 is not dangerous....or they don't believe their own science
Yes we need to lower CO2 levels, even at prior levels we had some of the hottest years on record. Sea levels are increasing, more violent moisture related events, melting glaciers. The impact of maintaining the status quo would even be severe.


The IPCC indicated dire consequences a decade from now lacking any action so I don't know where you got that idea from. Please don't repeat your claim that because the Paris accord allows some countries to increase that they are not taking this seriously, already answered.


Most of our major companies have accepted the fact that we need to take action, even oil companies but not Trump and the GOP. They stand out in the world as one of the few groups that deny climate change, its like explaining science to the Taliban.

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Old 10-25-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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Science....CO2 causes global warming and it's dangerous...the entire world has to not only stop emitting CO2 but lower their CO2 emissions

Reparations.....the vast majority of countries can increase their CO2 emissions until they make enough money...and global warming is not dangerous

Pick one....you can't have both...they are a contradiction
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:55 AM
 
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There is global warming and it is caused to a great extent by people. But we shouldn't the people who wrote the this tipping point to solve it.

Solving a problem is a different task from publicizing one.

These a 5 relatively inexpensive things that can mitigate if not reverse CO2 concentrations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45967215

But many of those who want to end global warming want people to change the way the live even more. They don't want relatively cheap solutions. They want solutions that would make people sacrifice their standard of living.

This is their real goal.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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They want solutions that would make people sacrifice their standard of living.

This is their real goal.
Complete nonsense bordering on conspiracy theory. Most individuals are not even responsible for the bulk of the problem. The problem is animal agriculture leading to massive deforestation and large corporations those are the main contributors reign them in and we can get the problem under control no reduction in standard of living necessary.
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Old 10-25-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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Complete nonsense bordering on conspiracy theory. Most individuals are not even responsible for the bulk of the problem. The problem is animal agriculture leading to massive deforestation and large corporations those are the main contributors reign them in and we can get the problem under control no reduction in standard of living necessary.
And if you cut animal agriculture, where will the food come from? Let the poor starve to death?
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Old 10-25-2018, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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And if you cut animal agriculture, where will the food come from? Let the poor starve to death?
Americans, especially, eat way more meat that is necessary for a healthy diet. I don't think we all need to be vegetarians, but we could eat a lot less meat, on average.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...of-meat-eaters
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Yeah, TAX THE AIR because your FAKE computer models of GIGO.....ah, no!
Time to bust more climate change denier alarmist MYTHS. I would be willing to bet you know nothing about climate models, how they work and what information they generate.

How Reliable are Climate Models

Climate models are mathematical representations of the interactions between the atmosphere, oceans, land surface, ice – and the sun. This is clearly a very complex task, so models are built to estimate trends rather than events.

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Old 10-25-2018, 10:23 AM
 
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Time to bust more climate denier alarmist MYTHS. I would be willing to bet you know nothing about climate models, how they work and what information they generate.

How Reliable are Climate Models

Climate models are mathematical representations of the interactions between the atmosphere, oceans, land surface, ice – and the sun. This is clearly a very complex task, so models are built to estimate trends rather than events.
Who is denying that the Earth has a climate? Do you not realize how much you discredit yourself by knowingly spewing these falsehoods?
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:58 AM
 
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Why do your repeat the same lie over and over again? Nobody is saying the majority of countries can increase CO2 emissions.

Currently 195 countries are Members of the IPCC.

There are 195 countries in the world today. This total comprises 193 countries that are member states of the United Nations and 2 countries that are non-member observer states: the Holy See and the State of Palestine.
The UN/IPCC says 139 countries are "developing" and can grow their economy first...and reduce emissions later...and if they don't reduce emissions...there is no penalty

139 countries is the majority of countries

China does not even have to start reducing emissions until 2030...which means they can continue increasing their emissions as much as they want...and if they don't in 2030...no penalty...same with India and on down the list of 139 countries

The UN/IPCC says we have to start reducing CO2 levels immediately...and at the same time...says countries can increase their emissions

The UN/IPCC does not even believe their own science....they are saying moving money to developing countries...is more important than global warming
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