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Old 10-19-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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And yet when you walk into a grocery store, drive into a gas station, enter a car dealership, stay a night at a hotel, take a trip to Hawaii, open your utility bill, approach rent day, etc, you expect to pay for all of that. Why? Shouldn't it all be free?
Certainly don’t expect it to be free. But a $9k bill just to walk in the door and get a few readings and a blood draw largely because of the screwed up insurance market rather than relating that to actual cost is what’s bothersome.

Good luck if you’re paying cash without insurance and get no discount.

 
Old 10-19-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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And yet when you walk into a grocery store, drive into a gas station, enter a car dealership, stay a night at a hotel, take a trip to Hawaii, open your utility bill, approach rent day, etc, you expect to pay for all of that. Why? Shouldn't it all be free?
Who has ever said it should be free...oh.....wait, a false equivalency doesn't work without a fallacy contained within.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 03:55 PM
 
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A White conservative guy living with his Black liberal SJW mother-in-law (or reverse the respective political leanings and skin colors) is almost bound to have a shorter lifespan.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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Drug and Alcohol addiction does not depend upon class, sex, creed, race, sexual orientation, of any other label that some like to place on everyone.
Addiction does have a correlation with self discipline and parenting.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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Certainly don’t expect it to be free. But a $9k bill just to walk in the door and get a few readings and a blood draw largely because of the screwed up insurance market rather than relating that to actual cost is what’s bothersome.

Good luck if you’re paying cash without insurance and get no discount.
In CA and other similar states the high costs in the ER are due to millions of invaders using the ER as their PCP...and never paying a bill.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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Wait till the guv takes it over DMV style
 
Old 10-19-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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Wonder if we're ever up to the task of doing something about this. For the wealthiest nation on the planet to have such poor health outcomes - with poorer still projected - should be surprising. I'm not saying "socialized medicine" is necessarily the answer, but it would seem we could have something to learn from those other nations we look down upon.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/17/healt...ntl/index.html
Hmm interesting -- think it is going up in other countries.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 05:20 PM
 
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Young people are too fat. Look at screens all day instead of interacting and getting exercise. Eat too much junk & processed food. Drug & alcohol addiction compound it.

This is across the board.


Many of them will end up with serious medical issues before they are 60.


https://www.salon.com/2018/06/10/why...er-generation/
The 2018 report, which surveyed 30,999 Americans, divided different generations into five activity levels, ranging from "active to a healthy level" to "inactive.” According to the report, nearly half of millennials (ages 19 to 38) participated in high-calorie-burning activities in 2017, while an estimated 25 percent remained sedentary. Sixty-five percent of the younger cohort, Gen Z, were “casually active” in 2017; Generation X (ages 39 to 53) were almost on par with millennials’ activity patterns, but were reported to be generally less active. The report also noted that millennials are more likely than other generations to participate in watersports, such as stand-up paddleboarding and surfing.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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Young people are too fat. Look at screens all day instead of interacting and getting exercise. Eat too much junk & processed food. Drug & alcohol addiction compound it.

This is across the board.


Many of them will end up with serious medical issues before they are 60.
Might want to look at your own join date and post count before you say anything else.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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Know who is living longer in the US? The .1%


Turns out being poor leads to lots of things that kill you. And unlike the rest of the developed world we do not have universal healthcare. So as wealth inequality grows, so does this. The wealthy are LITERALLY getting the poorest killed effectively.

And now the GOP is talking about cutting medicare, and social security because their tax cut for the wealthy is driving debt.
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