Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Exactly illegal aliens are not subject to US jurisdiction. They are supposed to be detained and summarily deported like any other invader or intruder.
If we started grabbing foreign citizens at the US airport entries, and apprehend them for US federal tax evasion, and froze their bank accounts until they paid back taxes, or drafted them into the US military, or demanded they buy appropriate health care insurance in compliance with the ACA, their host countries would be outraged, declaring we do not have the jurisdiction to do such a thing.
We do not have full jurisdiction over their person, because they are citizens of another nation.
We have the limited jurisdiction over foreign citizens visiting the US. We have jurisdiction over our laws which govern the behavior of foreign citizen guests in our country. We have legal jurisdiction over their conduct, and can deport them if their behavior is improper. We do not have the type of jurisdiction over their person, as does the nation they are citizens of.
Sorry but you are still hopelessly wrong. The Constitution is above the reach of the Congress except by the amendment process.
.
really
then explain...
Eighteenth Amendment (ie part of the constitution) to the United States Constitution prohibited the production, sale, and transport of "intoxicating liquors", it did not define "intoxicating liquors" or provide penalties.
CONGRESS had to come up with a law that defined both
so congress came up with the Volstead act, which defined both
btw The National Prohibition Act, known informally as the Volstead Act, was passed by congress and upheld by the supreme court ... yet 12 years later.. the act and the CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT were abolished
False, no it doesn't. The plain language says subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Well, regarding naturalization, so basically ANYTHING related to the process of a foreigner becoming a citizen, CONGRESS is the sole holder of jurisidiction. And if you are illegal, then you are OUTSIDE of that process...you voluntarily put yourself outside of it.
So no, illegals are not citizens, they can not create a citizen either. Only a citizen can make another citizen, just like only a cat can make a kitten. A dog can't make a kitten.
Spot on.
By breaking our immigration laws you voluntarily placed yourself outside of US jurisdiction.
It's like a man who steals a TV at Best Buy, then a month later takes it back for warranty repairs, or replacement. Because you broke the law, you do not get to avail yourself of the other protections afforded by those same laws.
If we started grabbing foreign citizens at the US airport entries, and apprehend them for US federal tax evasion, and froze their bank accounts until they paid back taxes, or drafted them into the US military, or demanded they buy appropriate health care insurance in compliance with the ACA, their host countries would be outraged, declaring we do not have the jurisdiction to do such a thing.
We do not have full jurisdiction over their person, because they are citizens of another nation.
We have the limited jurisdiction over foreign citizens visiting the US. We have jurisdiction over our laws which govern the behavior of foreign citizen guests in our country. We have legal jurisdiction over their conduct, and can deport them if their behavior is improper. We do not have the type of jurisdiction over their person, as does the nation they are citizens of.
Oh really? From what statute are non-diplomatic foreign visitors immune? Lmao. This is woefully inaccurate
Yes it is. If an illegal alien, a cop without a warrant, or a foreign soldier breaks in and occupies your home, they are all intruders or invaders regardless of the exact identification or classification of the intruder or invader. Being present inside the US jurisdiction without authorization makes one an intruder or invader.
It's a classification YOU are using. It's not an official classification. It's a word that is meant to trigger an emotional response. And you certainly have been triggered.
False, no it doesn't. The plain language says subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Well, regarding naturalization, so basically ANYTHING related to the process of a foreigner becoming a citizen, CONGRESS is the sole holder of jurisidiction. And if you are illegal, then you are OUTSIDE of that process...you voluntarily put yourself outside of it.
So no, illegals are not citizens, they can not create a citizen either. Only a citizen can make another citizen, just like only a cat can make a kitten. A dog can't make a kitten.
And a human being can't make another human being. Ooopsie!
A human being who is born on American soil and is not the child of someone who enjoys diplomatic immunity is born an American citizen. Illegals aren't making them citizens. American law is making them citizens.
Exactly illegal aliens are not subject to US jurisdiction. They are supposed to be detained and summarily deported like any other invader or intruder.
Of course they are subject to US jurisdiction. We can arrest them and prosecute them for committing crimes, can't we?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.