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Old 11-12-2018, 08:32 AM
 
Location: IL
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:34 AM
 
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But he wants to run as a Democrat.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:34 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Maybe William Weld. He ran with Gary Johnson on the Libertarian ticket in 2016. He's more moderate Republican than true Libertarian but I've always thought he made pretty good sense going all the way back to his days as Massachusetts governor. Fiscal conservative. Social liberal. The right combo in my book.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Also, there aren't two parties with some collection of "not one of the two parties" that we call "third" parties. There is one party, with different social cliques. Even the Libertarian Party seeks to maintain the state, the system of organized theft known as taxation, the world's largest mercenary force, the welfare state, etc. They want less of it, but not none of it. All the parties want a big government that does many things and relies on oppressive systems of taking and force to operate.

There is only one party.

A true opposition to that one party won't be electoral, it will be revolution and anarchy.
I don't think it would have to be violent. I could see the United States becoming 2 Country's. There has never been such a wide chasm between the party's as there is now with the Dem-Socialits movement on one side, and the Tea Party on the other.

We could keep the military the same, and split up the rest geographically. Each new Country pays a share into the military budget to keep that intact so we are not taken over by China and/or Russia.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:35 AM
 
Location: sumter
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I don't think so
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:40 AM
 
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Vladimir Putin, so long as we can manufacture a Georgia birth certificate.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:57 AM
 
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I don't think it would have to be violent.
Refuse to pay Paulie his tribute and he will get violent. You honestly think you can simply stop playing in Leviathan's sandbox without them visiting pain upon you? The definition of government is that collection of people that hold the monopoly on force and violence. You don't quit their game without them becoming violent, regardless of what you choose to do in the face of that violence.

That's what holds their oppressive machinery together. The implicit threat of just how much force they can bring t bear upon you should you seek to refuse their tender mercies.

And you don't think it would have to be violent? From a government that uses drones to kill children because they were born with the wrong geography traits?

There is one party. Do what government says, or be made to feel sorry that you did not. Pick any "party" banner from under which someone from the State does their bleating and babbling, and the message is the same. What they want to control, who they will hurt and why, and how once they are in control, everyone will dance to their tune or be made to regret not dancing.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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Of the 3rd party candidates in the last 100 years (since 1/1/1918) that were in a POTUS election, which election year and which 3rd party candidate got the furthest? For example, they might have gotten in 2nd or 3rd place of who would have become POTUS.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Ross Perot, 1992 was probably your best shot to see an actual 3rd party candidate win the presidency. The system is rigged against 3rd parties. Apart from that -- Trump 2016 is the best you'll do as Trump really isn't a republican, he's an independent who happened to get the republican nomination.
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