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Originally Posted by PilgrimsProgress
Just look at that turkey which received a Presidential pardon for Thanksgiving. Shameful!
Trump gave a short, funny speech with a few digs at the Dems.
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The OP title: Another reason the Loonies can claim Trump is a racist
You're really reaching, Pilgrim (no John Wayne pun intended)
Trump's speech, for once, contained nothing racist nor bigoted. At worst, it was a slight dig at Democrats any other Republican president might make. That dig is perfectly within acceptable limits of what a jab ought to be. I suppose some people just can't grasp the difference between a legitimate jab and outright demeaning of another's core personal value.
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Originally Posted by PilgrimsProgress
Did you know that these turkeys are bred from a special presidential flock? You have to admit they are always gorgeous birds. Too pretty to eat.
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Interesting but irrelevant fact, given the thread title.
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Originally Posted by PilgrimsProgress
I don't care for Melania's coat. Looks like an abstract painting. I guess I am more classic when it comes to fashion.
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You can have your fashion judgement/tastes. They're of little consequence here, if at all.
What is significant is that you take a fun but ultimately trivial ceremony, and use it say in effect "the left thinks this is racist" when (for once) there's no evidence that Trump
during this ceremony said nothing even arguably bigoted or otherwise cruel (a rare occasion!). That tells me more about your interpretation of what the left thinks than what the left actually does think about matters.
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Originally Posted by phma
Those who want to fundamentally change America have contempt for it and aren't part of the all.
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You're assuming that America (at least so-called "real Americans"*) is prefect the way it is. Problem here is that unless you think traditional Americans are as error-free as God Himself, you simply don't have a case. But if anything, history shows the opposite is often the case.
Fundamental changes traditional America needed to make, and in fact did make, to varying degrees of completion:
- Slavery: dead and gone. Traditionalist of that day opposed abolition.
- Stealing land from natives (not to mention near-genocide against them): thankfully a few natives did survive as coherent tribes. White America was definitely obtuse to its wrongfulness for over a century.
- Unsafe workplaces for industrial workers, and underpaying them besides.
- Sexism, Racism, Homophobia: most notably in denying women the right to vote, plus social attitudes inhibiting them from getting high-level jobs and leadership positions, equal pay for equal work. Right of inheritance. Most of this seems well on the way out, but stubborn pockets still remain.
- Traditional definitions of "manliness", shaming women for being too "bitchy" when men in the same situation are called strong and assertive; shaming men who are "unmanly" in some way or other that doesn't mesh with our ideas of what a man should be. IMO, the biggest core issue facing our society; with the possible exception of thinking that people who are "weak", "stupid", "timid", "strange", "incompetent", "socially clumsy" etc. deserve scorn simply for being those things alone (the very fact I listed all those testifies to how much work we still have to do in order to become a truly civilized, humane society).
* Those with a firm faith in convention, tradition, and definitions of "respect-worthy" or "contempt-worthy" person, and therefore doesn't need to change.
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